SB1040--Terror Watchlist Bill--NRA-ILA

[Sonofagun]

NDAA 2012 - Transfer to Gitmo without due process, without notification, without habeas corpus protections. Is it legal? Who knows, no one knows if it has actually been used.

These people that you speak of are on the field of battle w/ US troops.

The MDGA cannot write bills or laws that suspend habeas coruus for any citizen of MD. PERIOD.

 

[dblas]

This has everything to do w/ MDAG Frosh.

My thoughts for this ramrod action is that the Dumbocrats think that they can get this bill passed, have the Honorable Larry Hogan veto it, then the Dumbocrats can still overturn it w/ enough votes.

This bill is an over reach, abuse, fill in you own adjective, of POWER. If Brian Frosh released a position statement that shows this bill is FAVORABLE lets just say he's going to have to do a lot of explaining in the near future.

You can think what you want, but Frosh is not pushing this, Busch is.

 

[dblas]

These people that you speak of are on the field of battle w/ US troops.

The MDAG cannot write bills or laws that suspend habeas coruus for any citizen of MD. PERIOD.

The MD AG can't write bills at all, so what's your point?

 

[EL1227]

This has everything to do w/ MDAG Frosh.

My thoughts for this ramrod action is that the Dumbocrats think that they can get this bill passed, have the Honorable Larry Hogan veto it, then the Dumbocrats can still overturn it w/ enough votes.

This bill is an over reach, abuse, fill in you own adjective, of POWER. If Brian Frosh released a position statement that shows this bill is FAVORABLE lets just say he's going to have to do a lot of explaining in the near future.

Frosh doesn't make the law, he interprets and defends it once passed. Of course, we all know where Frosh stands on 2A Constitutional issues.

 

[Jim12]

Did anyone ever come up with his office's legal opinion on this bill? It was mentioned that it had been requested by one of the reps. in a hearing, iirc.

 

[Sonofagun]

The MD AG can't write bills at all, so what's your point?

That was a typo. Making the change to the original post.

 

[EL1227]

Did anyone ever come up with his office's legal opinion on this bill? It was mentioned that it had been requested by one of the reps. in a hearing, iirc.

They sure did, but shhhhh ... it's SECRET ... like the terrorist watch list. The DemocRATS probably hope that they can tie it up in court long enough to do sufficient damage to Hogan's re-election campaign.

We aren't dealing with reason and rule of law anymore. We're dealing with raw, down-and-dirty politics. Frosh's role is to obfuscate and delay ANY opinion that would support a Hogan veto.

Madison NAILED it ...

 

[Sonofagun]

You can think what you want, but Frosh is not pushing this, Busch is.

It really isn't a thought process it is called making the legislators accountable for any bill they put forward that exceeds the powers they were given to make laws.

 

[Jim12]

They sure did, but shhhhh ... it's SECRET. The DemocRATS probably hope that they can tie it up in court long enough to do sufficient damage to Hogan's re-election campaign.

We aren't dealing with reason and rule of law anymore. We're dealing with raw, down-and-dirty politics. Frosh's role is to obfuscate and delay ANY opinion that would support a Hogan veto.

Madison NAILED it ...

Who does the AG work for?

Word is out that an opinion was requested.

One would think that if there is an opinion, it should be publicly available, or at a minimum available to the MGA's minority as well as the majority, if not to the public at large. Or, has the bill been amended so as to require a new or modified opinion, conveniently too late before a vote? Or is other skulduggery at play?

 

[Rack&Roll]

Time to thank our Picketing Patriots this morning.

Delegates! Behold Picket A-Team member Jac43k!

 

[Rack&Roll]

Salute to hitwtom!

 

[Rack&Roll]

Hats off to returning Patriots Jeff M. And Bikebreath!

 

[Rack&Roll]

Kudos to mrgnstrn on his first day as one of Rack's Raiders at the Statehouse!

 

[Silent Partner]

If they manage to pass this awful bill couldn't DHS or another Fed agency file an injunction as this bill would comprise any investigation they have underway ?

 

[Rack&Roll]

This morning it was time to bitch slap the Democrats with the M word – – that's right, time for these M&M bootlicks to be confronted with the McCarthy Era tactics embedded in their Terror Watchlist bill.

Of course, these Soviet apparatchiks just ran away from our history lesson. Watch it and then launch it into the digital wind to see how far it will go.

 

[BeoBill]

These people that you speak of are on the field of battle w/ US troops.

The MDGA cannot write bills or laws that suspend habeas coruus for any citizen of MD. PERIOD.

But they can try, as they are with other unconstitutional proposed bills.

 

[Raineman]

You really need to get a better grasp on how things work down there. Would you feel better if they had a committee vote and the bills failed?

To break up these 2 sentences...

You have no idea how much I know about what goes on down there. In case you think I'm just some new guy that fell off a turnip truck, I have been at this since 1988 with both gun and hunting laws.

And...YES...I'd feel GREAT if they had both Committee votes AND full floor votes and it failed. That is what I want (because I know that is what will happen), so they can all be exposed for their votes. It is why I have been trying to get one or both of them petitioned out of Committee for years, in front of them, to their face.

Y'all can go ahead and smoke Vallario's pipe. I'm not doin' it. If they all want to succumb to blackmail via Mike & Mike, then that makes them tools of tyranny.

Sorry to get off topic, but this torqued me off.

 

[BeoBill]

Who does the AG work for?

Word is out that an opinion was requested.

One would think that if there is an opinion, it should be publicly available, or at a minimum available to the MGA's minority as well as the majority, if not to the public at large. Or, has the bill been amended so as to require a new or modified opinion, conveniently too late before a vote? Or is other skulduggery at play?

It seems to me that only the President and specific designees at the Federal level can classify information, and only National Security Information. So what's with the SECRET opinion?

 

[Rack&Roll]

Who does the AG work for?

Word is out that an opinion was requested.

One would think that if there is an opinion, it should be publicly available, or at a minimum available to the MGA's minority as well as the majority, if not to the public at large. Or, has the bill been amended so as to require a new or modified opinion, conveniently too late before a vote? Or is other skulduggery at play?

As noted in one of our videos, Miller & Busch are said to be re-writing the Terror Watchlist bill to try to get it to Hogan's veto pen. They just want that veto for the next election cycle.

 

[Rack&Roll]

Also, can you tell me where I am off track with this:

How about this for an aray-style poison pill: if the bill becomes law, the the Terror Watchlist becomes yet another check box--except failure to access the data represents an INCOMPLETE/PENDING investigation. It is NOT a disapproval but incomplete.

After the 7-day wait an FFL is free to hand over a purchased firearm while the MSP puts the background paperwork on the stack with all the other incomplete investigations.

So we ask legislators, are you sure you're not creating a system where stalled background checks pile up but firearms are going out the door anyway?