So DC gets constitutional carry, but not Md ?

[JohnnyE]

As a Maryland resident with a Utah non-resident permit, I am looking into visiting DC before a stay may be put into place. Maybe we'll even see a poll asking whether any forum members CC'd in DC without incident.

Go visit. You don't need a permit unless you want to go to VA and CC. Just be aware of where you can't carry and the mag size limits.

Thread is already started

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=157091

Thanks. I got a bit excited over the news and mixed up the threads.

While I'm thinking about it, I wonder how many of the folks at NRA headquarters in Fairfax decided to drive in to DC for lunch today?

 

[swinokur]

This is SAF's party. The NRA had nothing to do with this. My guess is they are sitting out in Fairfax pouting, not looking for a sammich in DC.

 

[Brooklyn]

This is SAF's party. The NRA had nothing to do with this. My guess is they are sitting out in Fairfax pouting, not looking for a sammich in DC.

Pouting? I hope not. As a life member I expect a certain amount of "go team" on their part......

 

[swinokur]

Have you seen any from NRA-ILA? I haven't seen so much as a congratulatory message from Chris Cox.

Please correct me if I'm wrong

Not a thing on the web page

http://www.nraila.org/

 

[Mr H]

This picture just popped up on Facebook. HvyMax is in DC right now open carrying.

I had no doubt he'd be there.

 

[DC-W]

Gura and the NRA have had pissing matches in the past. Don't know about this one, though.

 

[Mr H]

Not as I read it. You must be abiding by the carry laws of your state of residence.

I do not read anything in any of this stating home state carry laws apply. If you see it, please post it so we'll all be clear.

Don't take the 2 'scenarios' in the directive as exclusive guidance. The order and the directive only speak to someone who is not a DC resident being Federally allowed to own, and DC residents having registered guns.

 

[Mr H]

This is SAF's party. The NRA had nothing to do with this. My guess is they are sitting out in Fairfax pouting, not looking for a sammich in DC.

I'm hoping they're prepping something to push O'MAO into directing MSP to start issuing!

OK, so I'm a little giddy...

 

[swinokur]

The total lack of recognition in this victory tells me the NRA may be pouting. They should be as effusive in their praise as everyone else, but NADA to date.This is not the first time we've seen this behavior iMO anyway.

 

[swinokur]

Oh wishing MD was in the DC Circuit.

 

[lawrencewendall]

But...they can't pull a G&S move like MD since the ruling explicitly calls out self defense as a valid reason for carry.


Edit...The Doc beat me to it.

I haven't looked, but where was this?

 

[lawrencewendall]

This is federal law. Don't even attempt it. Unless you have creds.

Pray tell, what is the law?

18 U.S. Code § 930 - Possession of firearms and dangerous weapons in Federal facilities
(a) Except as provided in subsection (d), whoever knowingly possesses or causes to be present a firearm or other dangerous weapon in a Federal facility (other than a Federal court facility), or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 1 year, or both.
(b) Whoever, with intent that a firearm or other dangerous weapon be used in the commission of a crime, knowingly possesses or causes to be present such firearm or dangerous weapon in a Federal facility, or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
(c) A person who kills any person in the course of a violation of subsection (a) or (b), or in the course of an attack on a Federal facility involving the use of a firearm or other dangerous weapon, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be punished as provided in sections 1111, 1112, 1113, and 1117.
(d) Subsection (a) shall not apply to—
(1) the lawful performance of official duties by an officer, agent, or employee of the United States, a State, or a political subdivision thereof, who is authorized by law to engage in or supervise the prevention, detection, investigation, or prosecution of any violation of law;
(2) the possession of a firearm or other dangerous weapon by a Federal official or a member of the Armed Forces if such possession is authorized by law; or
(3) the lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.

It's just that no one will define "other lawful purposes" hence my earlier question if this ruling says self defense is a lawful purpose.

 

[dblas]

Have you seen any from NRA-ILA? I haven't seen so much as a congratulatory message from Chris Cox.

Please correct me if I'm wrong

Not a thing on the web page

http://www.nraila.org/

Posted on their Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/NationalRifleAssociation?fref=nf

 

[dblas]

Pouting? I hope not. As a life member I expect a certain amount of "go team" on their part......

They did, on Facebook

 

[swinokur]

There are millions of us not on facebook. I think an update on their web page would be more appropriate. Unless they're just unhappy with Gura.

ETA-looked on facebook-didn't see the post. can you elaborate?

 

[OrbitalEllipses]

ETA-looked on facebook-didn't see the post. can you elaborate?

Should be several posts down in the right hand column. Links to the Wash Times article if I'm not mistaken.

 

[rambling_one]

Oh wishing MD was in the DC Circuit.

Had someone voiced that a few years ago, I'd have thought him cuckoo.

After all, I just "knew" the 4th Circuit would uphold Judge Legg's ruling since four of the five states it represents are shall-issue.

 

[azuluza]

so will my Utah CC work in DC soon? im guessing they would have to come to some sort of agreement on this?

 

[Rattlesnake46319]

FYSA, DC filed a motion to stay - https://twitter.com/EmilyMiller/status/493861222157017088

 

[swinokur]

Wow how magnanimous. If that's a thank you, I'd hate to see their criticism. The silence is deafening. If they were among the plaintiffs, it's be splashed all over their web site.

Before anyone criticizes, I'm a Life member of the NRA. They can do better IMO.

Yep, they're pouting big time.