Time out, for one minute.
I agree quite a bit with what fabsroman said in his post, just a couple above this.
Calling someone a ________ (any name) because they don't see eye-to-eye with you, is not only un-called for, it's just not 'right'.
This is exactly why there is chocolate, vanilla and strawberry ice cream. Not everyone likes the same 'stuff'.
Some of us do not cast our own slugs, nor do we WANT or NEED to.
I'd much rather spend my time doing something else, than cast/load/test/re-test a homegrown lead slug.
Sorry, SOMDSHOOT...... calling any of us "Suckers" just isn't called for.
Ok I can retract the sucker comment. That's how the bullet company see's the customer...
However, noone yet has ever disagreed with me, that buying commercial Muzzleloader bullets is a complete scam. I give my Muzzleloader bullets away to many guys. I'll give them a pack of 20 to shoot and try and they keep coming back wanting more. We all know why the commercial M/L bullets cost what they cost and it's certainly not because they are "worth" that much. Don't think I have not been suckered in to somethings in my life, but, I realize what happened and make sure it never happens again. That's basically my point.
Think about it this way. If you buy 20 bullets at $30.00 then what does it cost to buy a box of 50 or 100 reloading bullets of the same make model as the 20 bullets you buy in a blister pack ? A 50 count box of sabots is only $6.00. You have now gotten 50 bullets for less than a commercial pack of "Muzzleloader Bullets" and you can get a better selection that what is on the store shelf. I just took it one step further and just cast my own.
Here's an example of my point:
1) Hornady XTP Bullets 45 Caliber (452 Diameter) 250 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point Box of 100 - $24.00 / 100 bullets ( Average store stocked ML bullets 240 gr.)
2) 100 sabots @ $14.00 ( on average from any source )
Total @ $38.00 / 100 ML bullets
How much would 100 of the bullets you guys shoot cost ?
I cast my own bullets. It costs me about $15.00 to make 500 bullets. Even if you buy copper jackets .45 cal reloading bullets and put them in your own sabots you are still way ahead of the commercial 20 pack prices.
Afterall where did the sabot muzzleloader bullet come from to start with ?