rj1974
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At around 2:45 you get to see FBI stats on how well the overtime and extra helping is speeding up the process 
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- Feb 4, 2013
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You keep posting this, but it is WRONG.
1) Hunter Safety Course IS acceptable.
2) If you have already have purchased regulated firearms, you do not need the training.
3) If you are active duty military, retired, or honorably discharged, you don't need training.
4) Training does NOT have to be performed by MSP.
5) The only thing you may be right, but it has not been determined, is whether NRA courses will count.
And the HQL has to be renewed every TEN (10 years), not 5. And there is nothing requiring a repeat of the training or fingerprinting. Just paying the $50 fee.
spclopr8tr
Whatchalookinat?
swinokur, thank you. Glad to see others are actually reading the law as signed by MOM and not just getting hysterical over rumor/innuendo/grapevine "gouge".
Not going back into the legal library right now (what are you drinking tonight? thread comes to mind), but as I recall, the renewal was for $20 and did not require repeating all the steps required to originally get the HQL.
Not going back into the legal library right now (what are you drinking tonight? thread comes to mind), but as I recall, the renewal was for $20 and did not require repeating all the steps required to originally get the HQL.
pcfixer
Ultimate Member
Since I'm retired Army, I have a MD Hunters Safety card, and Qualified
a NRA pistol trainer I won' need the safety course.
Problem is, HOW long will it take to get the HQL forms and HQL after sumbitting to MSP?
abean4187
Ultimate Member
- Apr 16, 2013
- 1,327
I think people saying the 90 day wait will turn into a 6-12 month wait after Oct 1st are being unrealistic. Come October, sales are going to drop like a rock. Most of the guns that people are currently buying are ones that will be banned after October so those sale will be gone. There will also be fewer people buying handguns as people are stocking up now so that won’t have to buy after October 1st.
People will also be waiting on litigation to see if they should even get the HQL. Why spend 50-100$ on a permit that might just get put on hold within a month?
People will also be waiting on litigation to see if they should even get the HQL. Why spend 50-100$ on a permit that might just get put on hold within a month?
spclopr8tr
Whatchalookinat?
Why do you care how long it will take to get the forms and license? You don't need the HQL as retired military. Or are you just venting? I've asked on this forum repeatedly if anyone can point to where in SB281 where it says active duty and retired military must have the HQL to purchase handguns after 1 OCT, and so far just crickets (chirp, chirp).
http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?p=2502701#post2502701[/url]
From SB281, I quote, "A “handgun qualification license” authorizes a person to purchase, rent, or receive a handgun. A licensed firearms manufacturer, a specified active or retired law enforcement officer, a member or retired member of the U.S. Armed Forces or the National Guard, and a person purchasing, renting, or receiving an antique, curio, or relic firearm (as defined under federal law) are exempt from the requirements of the licensing provisions."
http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/fn...001/sb0281.pdf
- Apr 21, 2011
- 1,096
Exactly. I have every intention of going to purchase a HK P30 on 1 OCT using just my military id.
mikemike7728
Member
Thanks for the video rj1974!! Clearly the MSP have no real answers. MSP is trying to justify why they are behind, with no legitimate reason!!
spclopr8tr
Whatchalookinat?
Or, you could wait another month after the supply far exceeds the demand and score a better price. I really agree with some of the other posters on MDS that many if not most are purchasing handguns now to avoid the hassle after 1 OCT. I purchased a PX4 Storm in early April. Had I known about the 90 - 100 day wait times then, I would have delayed until probably November. My dollars should have been targeted at the banned list.
Incorrect, page 31 lines 1-6
See above...
Bill says 30 days, time will tell. (page 31 lines 13-14)
10 years...Page 32 lines 4 - 5)
10 years, no more training requirement, no more fingerprint requirement, $20 renewal fee. (Page 32, lines 6 - 21)
here is the link to the bill as enrolled (signed by the Governor): http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/bills/sb/sb0281e.pdf
LEO appears to have been stricken, valid exemptions are:
HAS COMPLETED A CERTIFIED FIREARMS TRAINING COURSE APPROVED BY THE SECRETARY; OR
HAS COMPLETED A COURSE OF INSTRUCTION IN COMPETENCY AND SAFETY IN THE HANDLING OF FIREARMS PRESCRIBED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES UNDER § 10–301.1 OF THE NATURAL RESOURCES ARTICLE;
A QUALIFIED HANDGUN INSTRUCTOR;
IS AN HONORABLY DISCHARGED MEMBER OF THE ARMED FORCES OF THE UNITED STATES OR THE NATIONAL GUARD;
IS AN EMPLOYEE OF AN ARMORED CAR COMPANY AND HAS A PERMIT ISSUED UNDER TITLE 5, SUBTITLE 3 OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ARTICLE ; OR
LAWFULLY OWNS A REGULATED FIREARM.
Link to bill as enrolled (Signed by the Governor): http://mgaleg.maryland.gov/2013RS/bills/sb/sb0281e.pdf
Page 28, line 20 - page 29, line 16.
C&R is not required to have an HQL for handguns. If it is a banned item and a C&R, then of course it would be illegal after Oct 1.
Ex-military/retired military are exempt from training, see my reply above.
No, I just read it. It exclude LEO's from having to attend a training course. But still have to get the stupid license. Rediculous!
Page and line for reference??
GoO's
long time first time
If this is going into effect on Oct 1 then the ground work for the MSP dealing with this should be done. I don't think it is. I bet they have to push the Oct date back to accommodate the actually work the MSP will have to do.
Page 35 line 25-26. Unless I'm reading it wrong.
The MSP has published nothing so far.
Keep an eye on "the Maryland Register" for proposed changes to the COMAR to support the new laws.
http://www.dsd.state.md.us/MDRegister/mdregister.aspx
How many times can incorrect info be posted? Working on a record in this thread.
Yeah, it hasn't helped that Maryland has not cleaned up the SB281e.PDF
ShallNotInfringe
Lil Firecracker
- Feb 17, 2013
- 8,554
Or waiting until the last minute to clear up the mess left in the wake of that frenzied legislation....
So many questions, no answers.
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