NM governor suspends open & concealed carry in Albuquerque for 30 days

[Threeband]

She is insufferable.

She's a Loony.

 

[press1280]

Not really

Public parks and playgrounds are not sensitive places.

I agree, although by doing this she may have at least gotten the issue out of Federal court and into state court, where this somewhat turns on preemption issues, which it appears she'd lose again:

https://handgunlaw.us/documents/agopinions/BacaVsNMDeptofPubSafety2002_NMSC-017132.pdf

The rest of her "emergency order" is DOA in Federal court in 30 days.

 

[Mr H]

It just struck me...

She is equating her Oath (an affirmative commitment to uphold), with a Constitutional Right (an enumerated protective guarantee), saying she's bound to neither.

Hubris.

Socio-Totalitarian Hubris.

 

[Inigoes]

It just struck me...

She is equating her Oath (an affirmative commitment to uphold), with a Constitutional Right (an enumerated protective guarantee), saying she's bound to neither.

Hubris.

Socio-Totalitarian Hubris.

Psst

They are called "Tyrants".

 

[Sunrise]

From a couple days ago. I hope she keeps talking.

 

[jc1240]

I would love to see some use of that anti-qualified-immunity law she signed. Wouldn't that be sweet?

Two of the replies - funny how they project their own beliefs and GOP. Well....I'm sure there are some GOP folks on Epstein's list, but that's for another thread.

 

[gamer_jim]

Well, well, well…

New Mexico ends qualified immunity

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) signed a bill Wednesday ending qualified immunity for all government workers, including police. Grisham signed the New Mexico Civil Rights Act, which…

thehill.com

New Mexico State University law student stands his ground against campus police who tell him he will be arrested if he does not identify. The student tries to educate the officer that if he is unlawfully arrested then qualified immunity does not apply to the officer. Officer's supervisor is called in and tells the student he will be arrested if he does not identify. Student tries to explain that "failure to identify" law only applies as a secondary offense and officer could not articulate probable cause.

ID stuff starts at 13 minutes in:

 

[Inigoes]

Tyrants are not going to give up their power easily. Grisham extended the emergency another 30 days.

The governor last week extended an emergency public health order regarding gun violence an additional 30 days into early November.

New Mexico governor defends approach to attempted gun restrictions, emergency order on gun violence

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham is defending her decision to treat gun violence as a public health epidemic by presenting statistics on recent firearms seizures, reduced reports of gunfire in the Albuquerque metro area and an uptick in jail bookings.

apnews.com

 

[whistlersmother]

Tyrants are not going to give up their power easily. Grisham extended the emergency another 30 days.

New Mexico governor defends approach to attempted gun restrictions, emergency order on gun violence

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham is defending her decision to treat gun violence as a public health epidemic by presenting statistics on recent firearms seizures, reduced reports of gunfire in the Albuquerque metro area and an uptick in jail bookings.

apnews.com

Yea, who didn't see this comin'?

 

[Sunrise]

Tyrants are not going to give up their power easily. Grisham extended the emergency another 30 days.

New Mexico governor defends approach to attempted gun restrictions, emergency order on gun violence

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham is defending her decision to treat gun violence as a public health epidemic by presenting statistics on recent firearms seizures, reduced reports of gunfire in the Albuquerque metro area and an uptick in jail bookings.

apnews.com

I’m no longer surprised that I’m not surprised.

 

[Ponder_MD]

Tyrants are not going to give up their power easily. Grisham extended the emergency another 30 days.

New Mexico governor defends approach to attempted gun restrictions, emergency order on gun violence

New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham is defending her decision to treat gun violence as a public health epidemic by presenting statistics on recent firearms seizures, reduced reports of gunfire in the Albuquerque metro area and an uptick in jail bookings.

apnews.com

LMAO... oh man, we all knew this was coming. I wish upon her the very worst...

 

[RFBfromDE]

15 days to stop the spread!

 

[D&Ds]

Urias also said it appears “plausible, although not certain” that the governor may “demonstrate a national historical tradition of firearm restrictions at public parks within cities.”

Federal judge won't block suspension of right to carry guns in some New Mexico parks, playgrounds

A federal judge will allow enforcement of a public health order that suspends the right to carry guns at public parks and playgrounds in New Mexico’s largest metro area.

apnews.com

 

[teratos]

Urias also said it appears “plausible, although not certain” that the governor may “demonstrate a national historical tradition of firearm restrictions at public parks within cities.”

Federal judge won't block suspension of right to carry guns in some New Mexico parks, playgrounds

A federal judge will allow enforcement of a public health order that suspends the right to carry guns at public parks and playgrounds in New Mexico’s largest metro area.

apnews.com

How incredibly stupid can people be? They don’t like guns, so pretend the law will somehow make any difference to criminals.

 

[D&Ds]

How incredibly stupid can people be? They don’t like guns, so pretend the law will somehow make any difference to criminals.

let’s not forget it will be our fault if /when you lose a gun from taking it off in a “safe space”

A record-breaking number of guns have been stolen from cars in Tennessee. State Democrats are introducing legislation to crack down on gun owners.

A new bill introduced in the Tennessee House and Senate would make it an offense to irresponsibly leave a gun in a car or boat. If passed, a gun owner would

wpln.org

 

[Occam]

Urias also said it appears “plausible, although not certain” that the governor may “demonstrate a national historical tradition of firearm restrictions at public parks within cities.”

Federal judge won't block suspension of right to carry guns in some New Mexico parks, playgrounds

A federal judge will allow enforcement of a public health order that suspends the right to carry guns at public parks and playgrounds in New Mexico’s largest metro area.

apnews.com

That basis for that strategy is anticipated and completely gutted by Thomas in Bruen. Alas, it will have to get dragged through the courts for years to force that simple test to be finally applied to it correctly.

 

[Lafayette]

That basis for that strategy is anticipated and completely gutted by Thomas in Bruen. Alas, it will have to get dragged through the courts for years to force that simple test to be finally applied to it correctly.

And will it even make it to the courts for a final decision? I envision a strategy of the anti-gunners where they make these “emergencies” for short periods. Court case is filed, emergency is revoked, making the case moot…and then they invoke the emergency a day later - which forces an entirety new court challenge case starting from square one. Lather, rinse, repeat and you could envision this going on for decades.

 

[Occam]

And will it even make it to the courts for a final decision? I envision a strategy of the anti-gunners where they make these “emergencies” for short periods. Court case is filed, emergency is revoked, making the case moot…and then they invoke the emergency a day later - which forces an entirety new court challenge case starting from square one. Lather, rinse, repeat and you could envision this going on for decades.

There are strategies - in the forming of a complaint - that can head off the mootness trick. Claiming damages, for example. The policy may have gone away, but the damages won't have, and so the case is still alive. I'm being a bit simplistic, and it depends on carefully chosen plaintiffs and well written complaints with good counsel, but it can be done.

 

[Lafayette]

There are strategies - in the forming of a complaint - that can head off the mootness trick. Claiming damages, for example. The policy may have gone away, but the damages won't have, and so the case is still alive. I'm being a bit simplistic, and it depends on carefully chosen plaintiffs and well written complaints with good counsel, but it can be done.

Thanks for clarifying. I was making myself sad with my self-perceived cleverness.

 

[BeoBill]

There are strategies - in the forming of a complaint - that can head off the mootness trick. Claiming damages, for example. The policy may have gone away, but the damages won't have, and so the case is still alive. I'm being a bit simplistic, and it depends on carefully chosen plaintiffs and well written complaints with good counsel, but it can be done.

There is also the possibility of an "off the record" USSC conference call with a Federal District Court...