You just described Mephistopheles.
Montgomery County data shows ongoing major challenges with police staffing, recruitment
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You just described Mephistopheles.
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Here's the link to it: https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=16095&meta_id=173983
A trove of data on total disaster.
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30X30 Initiative: The department is also a signatory on the 30X30 initiative, to ensure that at least 30% of sworn Officers are women. Right now, about 21% of sworn Officers are women. This is up from 18% in 2017.
The department is shrinking and becoming more female. Great.
But are they hot?
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Tune in on March 18th at 9:30 AM for the Public Safety Committee Briefing:
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Holy Preload, Batman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes, 1,000! My apologies, good catch!!! I went to school in monkey county, I'm doing the best I can with that racist math!!!
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Generally, no...
But let me tell you, I have worked with some fantastic female officers. I'm a big guy, I can handle myself. I've still been scared many times as I approach a car or a door, and I can (out at least used to be able to...) handle my business. I can't imagine the confidence some of these smaller females must have... but most of them have it.
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****No worries, I'm thankful there are LEO's like you on the force. Hopefully, you leave some DNA behind so you can be cloned a few hundred times to make more good police officers/investigators.
God knows we need it here now as MoCo has unquestionably deteriorated in *many* ways in the past 20 years and I honestly do not see it getting better until criminals are held to account, and get swift, certain and severe punishment to the full extent of the law. No question this will require a paradigm shift to how politicians in our county (like Jawando, Mink, Elrich) see law enforcement and their role in helping to keep the peace as well as insuring the average citizen can be safe just moving about in their daily lives trying to make a living and raising families with good values.
I really feel badly when I drive through some formerly nice(ish) neighborhoods and just see litter *everywhere*, homes in disrepair, bars over windows, and people just milling about with no discernible means of support smoking weed and/or of school age not in school on a school day just milling about aimlessly. Terrible or missing/broken families and a breakdown in values as opposed to just poverty have caused this.
Below is an old pic from West Baltimore - perhaps the 1950's. Even poor/working class people with not much money took pride in their homes, took care of them, maintained them, and raised families. Poverty isn't the singular reason we see the dysfunction we see in today's society.
A functional society can only function well with a functioning family unit.
This is the house & corner market my father, 10 siblings, mom, dad and babcia all lived. It was clean and filled with joy.
(Polish "Library" is still across the street. St. Hedwigs is still around the corner. The rest is a sad ghetto.)
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Not as sad as Lancaster Avenue. That was a sh!thole 40+ years ago.
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I certainly appreciate your kind words, but I can assure you that there are thankfully much better cops out there than me. My attitude is admittedly poor. My level of caring has plummeted in the past 10 years or so. I can see it in the quality of my work. I still try to work hard and ensure that I can hold my head high and sleep comfortably at night... but I certainly don't give the level of effort that I did back then. I used to take my work a lot more personal, I tried to save everyone, I tried to fix all the problems. I lost a lot of sleep and sacrificed my personal and family time to answer the phone calls from my victims on my days off.
Now I do my job, make sure that completed everything that I need to complete and move on.
If the States Attorney craps out on a case... I shake my head and get annoyed, but move on.
If a judge makes a wrong decision and denies a search warrant because they are applying the wrong ruling to my circumstances, I complain to my boss, but move on.
If my victim doesn't cooperate, I don't try to assuage their concerns or convince them to reconsider, I close the case out and move on.
Back when I worked rape cases, I was trying to change the world. Now I'm trying to make it to retirement. That's the wrong attitude. I know it is. I wish I had a better attitude, but after 22 years I just can't make myself care anymore. I have my work ethic, I still want to help people... but I'm worn out and tired of feeling like Sisyphus. I do everything that is required, then I move on.
I hope that something drastic changes in MCPD and they somehow fix all that ails this county. I won't be around to see it though. 839 days left (recently found out that I have to work through June 2026, as opposed to retire June 1... that's another reason for my grumpy attitude, but that's a rant for another day!).
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There may or may not be a couple folks from Ridgely looking for jobs in law enforcement...
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Short-timer's disease is a real thing. Every morning, pray you make it through the day. Every evening, pray to give thanks for surviving(literally for some, figuratively for others).
Looks like I got it back, baby!There may or may not be a couple folks from Ridgely looking for jobs in law enforcement...
Thankfully I'm not out on the street anymore, so I'm able to stay pretty safe. I certainly pray every morning and give thanks every night though!
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X number of officers per 1000?
IACP says it's a myth! It's not their standard! Perish the thought!
And that was back in 2014, when You Know Who was busily race-baiting . . .
www.cpsm.us
Below is an extract from this link:
www.governing.com
Data reported by law enforcement agencies to the FBI depict a wide variation in the size of departments. Washington, D.C., for instance, maintains by far the largest police presence of any city, with about 57 officers for every 10,000 residents. Not too far behind is the Wilmington, Del., Police Department, employing approximately 43 officers for every 10,000 residents. Those numbers seem big when compared with a place like San Jose, Calif., which has only 9 officers per 10,000 people.
In general, the largest cities have a greater presence of police officers than smaller and mid-sized jurisdictions. On average, all localities with populations of at least 50,000 employed 16.6 officers and 21.4 total personnel for every 10,000 residents in 2015, according to the FBI data.
SOURCE: Governing calculations of 2015 FBI UCR data for cities of populations exceeding 50,000.
While the FBI data is useful for comparing cities, it doesn't tell us how many police officers a department needs. In fact, there's no national standard for how many police officers cities should have per capita.
IACP says it's a myth! It's not their standard! Perish the thought!
And that was back in 2014, when You Know Who was busily race-baiting . . .
Officers per thousand and other deployment myths - CPSM
Police agencies routinely speak about “recommended officers per 1,000 population” or a “National Standard” for staffing, or comparisons to other municipalities. There are no such standards.
www.cpsm.us
Below is an extract from this link:
How Many Police Officers Does a City Need?
There are many factors that go into staffing decisions -- some of which fail to take agencies' actual workloads into account.
www.governing.com
Data reported by law enforcement agencies to the FBI depict a wide variation in the size of departments. Washington, D.C., for instance, maintains by far the largest police presence of any city, with about 57 officers for every 10,000 residents. Not too far behind is the Wilmington, Del., Police Department, employing approximately 43 officers for every 10,000 residents. Those numbers seem big when compared with a place like San Jose, Calif., which has only 9 officers per 10,000 people.
In general, the largest cities have a greater presence of police officers than smaller and mid-sized jurisdictions. On average, all localities with populations of at least 50,000 employed 16.6 officers and 21.4 total personnel for every 10,000 residents in 2015, according to the FBI data.
| Jurisdiction Population | Average Total Personnel Per 10k Population | Average Officers Per 10k Population | Number of Agencies |
|---|---|---|---|
| 50,000-100,000 | 20.4 | 15.9 | 419 |
| 100,000-200,000 | 21.0 | 16.1 | 165 |
| 200,000-500,000 | 24.4 | 18.6 | 73 |
| 500,000+ | 29.8 | 23.7 | 33 |
| All Departments | 21.4 | 16.6 | 690 |
While the FBI data is useful for comparing cities, it doesn't tell us how many police officers a department needs. In fact, there's no national standard for how many police officers cities should have per capita.
A good article. If you live in MoCo, I think that it is worth a read.
montgomeryperspective.com
The Police Staffing Bomb - Montgomery Perspective
By Adam Pagnucco. I have written many times about Montgomery County’s problems with police department staffing. Here is a sample. MoCo’s Recent Record on Police...
montgomeryperspective.com
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Wow. That's really depressing.A good article. If you live in MoCo, I think that it is worth a read.
The Police Staffing Bomb - Montgomery Perspective
By Adam Pagnucco. I have written many times about Montgomery County’s problems with police department staffing. Here is a sample. MoCo’s Recent Record on Police...
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