Egotistical Instructor Making His Own W&C Qualifications???

[RFBfromDE]

This thread is pretty hilarious. What are his qualification standards?

They are alleged to be only count inside the 8 ring on a B27 instead of anywhere in the black.

A lofty goal, but it remains unverified that he actually failed anyone.

So far, just extrapolating and hearsay.

 

[miles71]

Yes, the MSP is to create a curriculum by oct 1. Can't wait.........

As I have said many times research the course and instructor. Find the one right for you. If the instructor is up front about the course requirements and you still take it it's on you.

TD

 

[Doctor_M]

They are alleged to be only count inside the 8 ring on a B27 instead of anywhere in the black.

A lofty goal, but it remains unverified that he actually failed anyone.

So far, just extrapolating and hearsay.

Actually not that hard to do... I'm far from a professional gunslinger, but this was my recent qualification sheet for my carry renewal. Shot with nothing special Glock-19. 25/25.

 

[akalma]

They are alleged to be only count inside the 8 ring on a B27 instead of anywhere in the black.

A lofty goal, but it remains unverified that he actually failed anyone.

So far, just extrapolating and hearsay.

Not quite correct. Requirement was to shoot 35 shots at B27 target from different positions (both hands streight, both hands left leaning to the pole, both hands right leaning to the pole, strong hand only, weak hand only, both hands from kneeling position). The best 25 shots were counted to be inside the 9th ring with passing threshold of 75%.

 

[outrider58]

Not quite correct. Requirement was to shoot 35 shots at B27 target from different positions (both hands streight, both hands left leaning to the pole, both hands right leaning to the pole, strong hand only, weak hand only, both hands from kneeling position). The best 25 shots were counted to be inside the 9th ring with passing threshold of 75%.

The first ten "free" shots confused the hell out of me, I don't mind saying.

 

[Bertfish]

Not quite correct. Requirement was to shoot 35 shots at B27 target from different positions (both hands streight, both hands left leaning to the pole, both hands right leaning to the pole, strong hand only, weak hand only, both hands from kneeling position). The best 25 shots were counted to be inside the 9th ring with passing threshold of 75%.

Were you a student of this gentleman?

 

[akalma]

The first ten "free" shots confused the hell out of me, I don't mind saying.

Fuzzy math!

 

[outrider58]

Fuzzy math!

I think, if you missed any in the first ten shots, he didn't count the misses? I had 2 fliers in the 8 ring at the end(1 single support hand and 1 barricade) and was deducted 8 points.

 

[akalma]

I think, if you missed any in the first ten shots, he didn't count the misses? I had 2 fliers in the 8 ring at the end(1 single support hand and 1 barricade) and was deducted 8 points.

2 of 25 is 0.08 or 8%, so your score was 92% and you passed the qualification. Does it sound right?

 

[outrider58]

2 of 25 is 0.08 or 8%, so your score was 92% and you passed the qualification. Does it sound right?

Precisely.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Not quite correct. Requirement was to shoot 35 shots at B27 target from different positions (both hands streight, both hands left leaning to the pole, both hands right leaning to the pole, strong hand only, weak hand only, both hands from kneeling position). The best 25 shots were counted to be inside the 9th ring with passing threshold of 75%.

I could guess what that's supposed to mean , but it isn't clear from this .

 

[Blackstar65]

They are alleged to be only count inside the 8 ring on a B27 instead of anywhere in the black.

A lofty goal, but it remains unverified that he actually failed anyone.

So far, just extrapolating and hearsay.

That's not a lofty goal. I be interested in in what his times and distances are.

 

[clandestine]

That's not a lofty goal. I be interested in in what his times and distances are.

Here I though I had it rough. I had to shoot a HKG3 to pass my Armorers Class. Those dern instructors

 

[outrider58]

That's not a lofty goal. I be interested in in what his times and distances are.

I think you're missing the point; it's all bluster.

 

[akalma]

I could guess what that's supposed to mean , but it isn't clear from this .

Here is an example target.

 

[Abagnale]

Several years back I had a negative encounter with Jesse Lim at the Izaak Walton League in Damascus. He threatened to call the cops on me because I was at the range shooting my registered SBR AR-15. He came up to me out of nowhere and started yelling at me that I'm not allowed to shoot it at the range because it's "a fully automatic assault weapon with a short barrel". It was a semi auto and I was not impressed with his self entitled little dictatorial requests. I told him to go ahead and call the cops and I just kept shooting anyway. He's a certified douchebag in my opinion. He's one of the most cringe people I've ever encountered in my life!

 

[spoon059]

3paul10 has the best class.

I don't know about that, I've been taking his classes for years now and haven't gotten any better...

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[teratos]

I don't know about that, I've been taking his classes for years now and haven't gotten any better...

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He wasn’t talking about shooting…

 

[Blaster229]

Have students achieve state minimum or whatever, that's fine, then let 'em pass and get over yourself.
If you have the knowledge, training and experience enough that you know you can get a complete novice to shoot your made up qual, then have at it. They'll pass(yay). If not, then still pass them on the minimum.
This guy sounds like a complete dick and knows nothing about trying to get new shooters to relax so that they can concentrate on learning, first and foremost.

 

[welder516]

Here is an example target.

Never seen a target with a dog collar, what kind of class do you take?