DC resident shoots, kills 13-year-old boy, says teen was breaking into cars: police

[RFBfromDE]

This is a DC Prosecutor's career-making case. I'm wondering

Isn't that what Mosby thought about Freddy G?

 

[Sunrise]

I'm seeing the people realize any security by their government is an illusion, that the conditioning we've had to not fight back and let the law handle it breaking down, that self-preservation is more important than the fear of retaliation by the law, that at some point it's either we take a stand and ensure we have a safe world or live in fear as evil takes over.

Very well said.

The only DC Council Member who voted against DC's Criminal Code Reform Bill which reduced penalties for carjacking and other violent crimes was Trayon White, and he believed this:

 

[Sunrise]

Isn't that what Mosby thought about Freddy G?

True, but this is a 13-Year-Old "quiet and inquisitive scholar who loved fashion and football".

Fundraiser for the "quiet and inquisitive scholar" is nearly at $36K as of today: https://www.gofundme.com/f/karon-blakes-funeral-accommodations

 

[outrider58]

I'm seeing the people realize any security by their government is an illusion, that the conditioning we've had to not fight back and let the law handle it breaking down, that self-preservation is more important than the fear of retaliation by the law, that at some point it's either we take a stand and ensure we have a safe world or live in fear as evil takes over.

What their not seeing is the larger picture; that this is a small part of an overall ploy to institute a federal police force. This is where all the 'let the criminals loose-unfund the police-start vigilanteism' is headed.

 

[Triggerfinger]

What their not seeing is the larger picture; that this is a small part of an overall ploy to institute a federal police force. This is where all the 'let the criminals loose-unfund the police-start vigilanteism' is headed.

If that's the case, this is what would comprise the Federal Police Force. I wonder if we'd be safer with the average criminal:

 

[Sunrise]

More details coming out. Looks like a Tueller Drill Shooting if he really charged him.

MPD Chief is expected to give a Press Briefing soon.

Briefing Live Stream:



MPD says they've revoked his DC Carry Permit and will seize his firearms.

 

[outrider58]

If that's the case, this is what would comprise the Federal Police Force. I wonder if we'd be safer with the average criminal:

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We damn sure don't want any type of federally controlled police force. Their key role will be firearms confiscation...from us.

 

[LAC_MD]

Per the commissioner he fired the 1st shot while the kid was sitting in a car…

 

[outrider58]

Per the commissioner he fired the 1st shot while the kid was sitting in a car…

...and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the kid's car.

I really don't know what DC's rules for firearms use are, but I have a feeling it's not going to work out well for the accused. Am I wrong?

 

[Sunrise]

Per the commissioner he fired the 1st shot while the kid was sitting in a car…

He's screwed.

 

[Sunrise]

...and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the kid's car.

I really don't know what DC's rules for firearms use are, but I have a feeling it's not going to work out well for the accused. Am I wrong?

See here: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/district-of-columbia-gun-laws-what-you-need-to-know/

D.C. is neither a stand your ground nor a duty to retreat jurisdiction. The District case law has established a middle ground.

Also see from MPD (.PDF): https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/page_content/attachments/District Law Pertaining to Self Defense.pdf

 

[outrider58]

See here: https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/blog/district-of-columbia-gun-laws-what-you-need-to-know/

D.C. is neither a stand your ground nor a duty to retreat jurisdiction. The District case law has established a middle ground.

Also see from MPD (.PDF): https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/page_content/attachments/District Law Pertaining to Self Defense.pdf

https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/page_content/attachments/District%20Law%20Pertaining%20to%20Self%20Defense.pdf

Boom! Right there, 12th line down...

You are entitled to claim self-defense:
(1) if you actually believe you are in imminent danger of bodily harm; and
(2) if you have reasonable grounds for that belief.

Now I didn't read the whole PDF, but I didn't see where deadly force was okay to use on thieves.

 

[Sunrise]

https://mpdc.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/mpdc/page_content/attachments/District%20Law%20Pertaining%20to%20Self%20Defense.pdf

Boom! Right there, 12th line down...


Now I didn't read the whole PDF, but I didn't see where deadly force was okay to use on thieves.

Yup. He's got a real problem if the facts gleaned from the investigation, on video and from witness testimony, are different than the initial statements he made to Police.

 

[LAC_MD]

...and I'm pretty sure it wasn't the kid's car.

I really don't know what DC's rules for firearms use are, but I have a feeling it's not going to work out well for the accused. Am I wrong?

He is definitely screwed. You can not introduce deadly force to a property crime then claim self defense.

 

[outrider58]

He is definitely screwed. You can not introduce deadly force to a property crime then claim self defense.

And I just heard on the news that he shot at a car and someone from another car began running towards him, so he shot him?
They're say CCTV doesn't bear that out. You can't start the aggression and then claim self defense.

 

[1time]

Whoever witness 1 is stated the shooter yelled at the deceased at which point the deceased charged the shooter. When he was about 5 feet away the shooter fired the first round, paused and then shot the second round.

 

[outrider58]

Whoever witness 1 is stated the shooter yelled at the deceased at which point the deceased charged the shooter. When he was about 5 feet away the shooter fired the first round, paused and then shot the second round.

I never want to rely on an eye witness for my defense. I have been screwed by prejudicial witnesses before.

 

[Sunrise]

I never want to rely on an eye witness for my defense. I have been screwed by prejudicial witnesses before.

Sounds like the video evidence combined with the shell casing placement/ballistics are such that the Defendant is going to have a real issue on defense.

I'm curious what his lawyer is going to argue:

 

[outrider58]

Sounds like the video evidence combined with the shell casing placement/ballistics are such that the Defendant is going to have a real issue on defense.

I'm curious what his lawyer is going to argue:

Yet the MPD commissioner refers to the car as a "get away car" in his statement(just watched that. not sure where that was earlier). IDK, I smell fish...

 

[Sunrise]

It begins.

"Too many guns are leading to too many tragedies"... "I know we must do more to get guns out of our city".

Shameless gaslighting and grifting by the Mayor here.