DC resident shoots, kills 13-year-old boy, says teen was breaking into cars: police

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  • OMD6dawg

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    Your mentorship is admirable, and you should be commended for it, but there aren't nearly enough of you to keep up with the number of fatherless youth in these communities who are undisciplined and go on to commit criminal behavior.


    The article said evidence showed that two other individuals were inside the stolen car with Karon. So much failure and deliberate neglect by the families here. It may not be the case here, but I have no doubt there been instances where the kids have been "put to work" by the parent(s).
    I do not disagree with most of what you said here. It can seem like they were “ put to work” as some of the parents ignore what the kids are doing, or just don’t stop them when they’re in the room with their friends doing God knows what. Most of it is negligence by attrition.

    And like you said, it will happen again as more and more citizens become armed and ready to protect themselves and their loved ones from harm.
     

    1time

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 26, 2009
    2,301
    Baltimore, Md
    Hit and Run is not a felony no one was hurt so it’s a property crime and traffic violation is it not? Does the punishment fit the crime? Just who is the judge and jury?

    Did you watch the video? That cop did everything he could to get that guy to comply after he did a hit and run and then tried to get into someone else’s car. They got him into cuffs called a medic and transported him to the hospital. He died 5 hours later in the hospital after going into cardiac arrest.

    Maybe I missed something but I didn’t see punishment, a judge or jury. What did you see? What would you have the police do?
     

    Afrikeber

    Ultimate Member
    Jan 14, 2013
    6,821
    Urbana, Md.
    Did you watch the video? That cop did everything he could to get that guy to comply after he did a hit and run and then tried to get into someone else’s car. They got him into cuffs called a medic and transported him to the hospital. He died 5 hours later in the hospital after going into cardiac arrest.

    Maybe I missed something but I didn’t see punishment, a judge or jury. What did you see? What would you have the police do?
    I was speaking to the rationalization that since he was on drugs and he ran from a hit and run that death was a reasonable punishment.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    33,571
    Death from complications of illegal drug use isn't a " punishment " .

    But it is self inflicted reckless disregard for ( one's own) life , through Misadventure .
     

    Triggerfinger

    States Rights!
    Sep 1, 2012
    1,487
    Richlands, North Carolina
    I wonder what worries me more,

    1. A justice system that protects the criminal and releases them back into society
    2. A police force that is under-funded, over-whelmed and non-existent as criminals tear into good citizens.
    3. Vigilantly citizens who take law into their hands and remove criminals by shooting them

    *Hint it's not number 3.
     

    Sunrise

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2020
    5,590
    Capital Region
    I wonder what worries me more,

    1. A justice system that protects the criminal and releases them back into society
    2. A police force that is under-funded, over-whelmed and non-existent as criminals tear into good citizens.
    3. Vigilantly citizens who take law into their hands and remove criminals by shooting them

    *Hint it's not number 3.
    Yup. DC leadership/voters are fine with the radical empathy they give to criminals. They're also fine with an underfunded and understaffed police force they have.

    This guy has now been thrown to the wolves of a DC Jury Pool. Pour one out folks. He's screwed unless his lawyer (Lee Smith, who was identified and gave a public statement in The Washington Post) can pull off a miracle.
     

    Biggfoot44

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 2, 2009
    33,571
    I wonder what worries me more,

    1. A justice system that protects the criminal and releases them back into society
    2. A police force that is under-funded, over-whelmed and non-existent as criminals tear into good citizens.
    3. Vigilantly citizens who take law into their hands and remove criminals by shooting them

    *Hint it's not number 3.

    Those three are subjects of eternal and non solvable debate over cold beverages and warm campfires . But none of those are the operative dynamic in THIS Instance .

    #4 - The greater good of reducing rioting, major destruction of property ,and cumulative injuries of both rioters , riot controllers , and riot bystanders and those trapped in wrong place is more important than one individual .


    Just ask Louis Alvarez .
     

    Triggerfinger

    States Rights!
    Sep 1, 2012
    1,487
    Richlands, North Carolina
    Those three are subjects of eternal and non solvable debate over cold beverages and warm campfires . But none of those are the operative dynamic in THIS Instance .

    #4 - The greater good of reducing rioting, major destruction of property ,and cumulative injuries of both rioters , riot controllers , and riot bystanders and those trapped in wrong place is more important than one individual .


    Just ask Louis Alvarez .
    Maybe that's the problem, too much talking and drinking beer with little action to resolve the problem.
     

    Sunrise

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2020
    5,590
    Capital Region
    Those three are subjects of eternal and non solvable debate over cold beverages and warm campfires . But none of those are the operative dynamic in THIS Instance .

    #4 - The greater good of reducing rioting, major destruction of property ,and cumulative injuries of both rioters , riot controllers , and riot bystanders and those trapped in wrong place is more important than one individual .


    Just ask Louis Alvarez .
    Yup. DC Leadership is throwing Mr. Lewis under the bus so that it doesn't burn again.
     

    Sunrise

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2020
    5,590
    Capital Region
    Maybe that's the problem, too much talking and drinking beer with little action to resolve the problem.
    It's not a problem that DC Leadership or the voters who elected them are willing to resolve in a way which results in the admission that everything they've done was wrong and got things here.
     

    outrider58

    Loves Red Balloons
    MDS Supporter
    I wonder what worries me more,

    1. A justice system that protects the criminal and releases them back into society
    2. A police force that is under-funded, over-whelmed and non-existent as criminals tear into good citizens.
    3. Vigilantly citizens who take law into their hands and remove criminals by shooting them

    *Hint it's not number 3.
    It's #1 and #2 that get you to #3.
     

    Mr. Ed

    This IS my Happy Face
    MDS Supporter
    Jun 8, 2009
    7,939
    Edgewater
    Not justifying this, but Tommy Lee Jones had a thought about the consequences of a person's actions:

    Died of natural causes due to the line of work...

     

    Sunrise

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2020
    5,590
    Capital Region
    It's #1 and #2 that get you to #3.
    DC's going to put the screws so hard to Mr. Lewis so that people won't even consider doing #3.

    They want to keep it from burning again, so they'll do it. This is a DC Prosecutor's career-making case. I'm wondering what the Plea Deal will wind up being if there even is one. With a DC Jury Pool, you might not even need to make an offer here.
     

    Triggerfinger

    States Rights!
    Sep 1, 2012
    1,487
    Richlands, North Carolina
    I'm seeing the people realize any security by their government is an illusion, that the conditioning we've had to not fight back and let the law handle it breaking down, that self-preservation is more important than the fear of retaliation by the law, that at some point it's either we take a stand and ensure we have a safe world or live in fear as evil takes over.
     

    Sunrise

    Ultimate Member
    Aug 18, 2020
    5,590
    Capital Region
    Not justifying this, but Tommy Lee Jones had a thought about the consequences of a person's actions:

    Died of natural causes due to the line of work...


    Great scene from a great film.

    DC has an unlimited amount of compassion for the right kind of criminal.

    We're going to see it.
     

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