Carrying without a permit, no-no.

[Blaster229]

I doubt any Prosecutor will file anything on a non criminal citizen with no W&C permit who uses a handgun successfully in a shoot defending a life.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

My money's on the "how a trigger job will be perceived in a courtroom" circle jerk.

Years ago, there was a thread about people going to prison because they reloaded their own ammunition and killing Mr. 2ammurderingthuglife with it.

If folks go to prison, it will be over taking a life. Not over the ammunition used to take it.

 

[swinokur]

I doubt any Prosecutor will file anything on a non criminal citizen with no W&C permit who uses a handgun successfully in a shoot defending a life.

In his own home.

 

[DC-W]

I doubt any Prosecutor will file anything on a non criminal citizen with no W&C permit who uses a handgun successfully in a shoot defending a life.

Why? They go after permitted individuals...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-crab-shack-murder-arrest-20160915-story.html

He was later found not-guilty.
http://foxbaltimore.com/news/raw-ne...s-owner-speaks-after-being-cleared-of-charges

I've met him a couple of times. Nice guy.

 

[rbird7282]

Is it illegal for an illegal to carry an illegal handgun illegally in a PG park?

Nope, all of those illegals cancel each other out and it becomes legal.


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[mumfrey]

I doubt any Prosecutor will file anything on a non criminal citizen with no W&C permit who uses a handgun successfully in a shoot defending a life.

I'm not so sure about that. IMO, not only would you get charged, it would also open up the door to being sued by the family. As I mentioned before, you would be bankrupted at the very least.

 

[Squaregrouper]

Why? They go after permitted individuals...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...-crab-shack-murder-arrest-20160915-story.html

He was later found not-guilty.
http://foxbaltimore.com/news/raw-ne...s-owner-speaks-after-being-cleared-of-charges

I've met him a couple of times. Nice guy.

I'm once removed from him. BCPD was not happy with him when he showed them the surveillance video of the attack, but refused to turn it over- rather he gave it to his attorney.

 

[swinokur]

I'm not so sure about that. IMO, not only would you get charged, it would also open up the door to being sued by the family. As I mentioned before, you would be bankrupted at the very least.

Maryland passed a law two years ago that prevents people from being sued by victims families IIRC

 

[Blaster229]

I'm not so sure about that. IMO, not only would you get charged, it would also open up the door to being sued by the family. As I mentioned before, you would be bankrupted at the very least.

Charged with what? Sued why?
If the shoot was good, you think they'll go after carrying without a permit?

What if you defending a life using a shovel?
Would that be a bad use of deadly force? So it's not a good threat stop and you get charged with manslaughter?

 

[jbrown50]

Maryland passed a law two years ago that prevents people from being sued by victims families IIRC

I think this is it......

https://lawofselfdefense.com/statut...for-defense-of-dwelling-or-place-of-business/

2014 Maryland Code
COURTS AND JUDICIAL PROCEEDINGS
TITLE 5 – LIMITATIONS, PROHIBITED ACTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES

Subtitle 8 – Immunities and Prohibited Actions – Miscellaneous
§ 5-808 – Civil immunity for defense of dwelling or place of business.

(a) Person. — In this section, “person” does not include a governmental entity.

(b) Civil immunity. — A person is not liable for damages for a personal injury or death of an individual who enters the person’s dwelling or place of business if:

(1) The person reasonably believes that force or deadly force is necessary to repel an attack by the individual; and

(2) The amount and nature of the force used by the person is reasonable under the circumstances.

(c) Exception. — Subsection (b) of this section does not apply to a person who is convicted of a crime of violence under § 14-101 of the Criminal Law Article, assault in the second degree, or reckless endangerment arising out of the circumstances described in subsection (b) of this section.

(d) Costs and attorney’s fees. — The court may award costs and reasonable attorney’s fees to a defendant who prevails in a defense under this section.

(e) Other provisions not limited or abrogated. — This section does not limit or abrogate any immunity from civil liability or defense available to a person under any other provision of the Code or at common law.

 

[swinokur]

that's it

 

[mumfrey]

Charged with what? Sued why?
If the shoot was good, you think they'll go after carrying without a permit?

What if you defending a life using a shovel?
Would that be a bad use of deadly force? So it's not a good threat stop and you get charged with manslaughter?

Charged with illegally carrying a firearm. I, for one, do not wish to bank on the fact that they wouldn't charge you with such. The charge may get dropped, but again, you'll be bankrupted.

 

[Blaster229]

that's it

But that's just for at home or place of business. Not carrying out in the street.

 

[mumfrey]

Maryland passed a law two years ago that prevents people from being sued by victims families IIRC

I am aware of that but not the specifics. I was thinking that if you are charged with illegal carry that it may negate this and leave open the possibility of a lawsuit.

 

[swinokur]

oh I thought you were referring to a self defense shooting in your home.

Outside-all bets are off IMO.

 

[mumfrey]

But that's just for at home or place of business. Not carrying out in the street.

That's how I read it, also.

 

[Blaster229]

I am aware of that but not the specifics. I was thinking that if you are charged with illegal carry that it may negate this and leave open the possibility of a lawsuit.

A good "shoot" defending someone does not get negated by the method used to stop that threat. If you take a 2x4 to someone stabbing a third party, or yourself with a knife, isn't that still a good defense even if you haven't been trained and licensed to carry a 2x4?

 

[mumfrey]

A good "shoot" defending someone does not get negated by the method used to stop that threat. If you take a 2x4 to someone stabbing a third party, or yourself with a knife, isn't that still a good defense even if you haven't been trained and licensed to carry a 2x4?

My thought is the fact that it is illegal to carry without a permit. Good shoot or not, you are still in violation, hence my believing you would be charged. Using a 2x4 is a bit different, IMO, as it isn't illegal to carry a 2x4 without a permit.

 

[Blaster229]

My thought is the fact that it is illegal to carry without a permit. Good shoot or not, you are still in violation, hence my believing you would be charged. Using a 2x4 is a bit different, IMO, as it isn't illegal to carry a 2x4 without a permit.

How about a prohibited person uses the pistol from an injured Samaritan or cop to defend that person from deadly threat? LOL what now? Does he go to the pokey for possession?

 

[jbrown50]

oh I thought you were referring to a self defense shooting in your home.

Outside-all bets are off IMO.

I think both of our minds were on the shooting by the crab shack owner in post # 124 by DC-W. That was at his place of business........ie; castle doctrine.