MSP Got one... Instructor caught cutting corners, permits invalidated.

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  • Zaicran

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 26, 2010
    910
    Morganza, MD
    Holiday inn express? You need to experience life on the wild side of shirt term lodgings. The La Quinta in glen dirty has great amenities, such as hot and cold running hookers. And thieves on standby to unload your vehicle overnight. We call it the La Cunta inn. And refuse to let work put us up there.
    LOL You speak the truth!!!
     

    Zaicran

    Active Member
    MDS Supporter
    Sep 26, 2010
    910
    Morganza, MD
    I searched the instructors name and they are mentioned in some threads. Given I have this as second hand information information I don't feel comfortable naming them directly. But my buddy was contacted by the MSP a few days after the instructor informed his recent customers he was busted. As far as did my friend know the class was short ? Given the repercussions of all this I again am reluctant to comment.

    Take away from my non post post is if something doesn't seem right walk away find another instructor. Right or wrong constitutionally MSP is definitely taking this seriously.
    Oh come on, name the instructor…
     

    Blacksmith101

    Grumpy Old Man
    Jun 22, 2012
    22,339
    But how did we obtain it?


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    From reading lots of posts both right and wrong and the corrections to those that were wrong. It is a good thing that none of us has a full time job and other important demands on our time. :sarcasm:
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,114
    But how did we obtain it?


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    From being shanghied into being the VP of a state organization and the President working to get his business back in shape after the 2013 session, so I ended up being the "face" of the organization during the 2014 session.

    Is that what they call OJT or trial by fire????
     

    4g64loser

    Bad influence
    Jan 18, 2007
    6,641
    maryland
    From being shanghied into being the VP of a state organization and the President working to get his business back in shape after the 2013 session, so I ended up being the "face" of the organization during the 2014 session.

    Is that what they call OJT or trial by fire????
    That's called a massive amount of game. Some have it. Some don't.

    That would make you one of the "haves".
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,114
    That's called a massive amount of game. Some have it. Some don't.

    That would make you one of the "haves".
    On top of that, I got the opportunity to become a full time volunteer staff member of one of (in my mind) best State Delegates this state ever had, Mike Smigiel, uner the Andy.
    If the first year as Vice President taught me how the sausage was made from the public side, the second year (Now President) taught me how the sausage was made from the working side.
    I wouldn't trade either year of the experience for any thing.
     

    JohnnyE

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Jan 18, 2013
    9,676
    MoCo
    The law says 16 hours. It’s not ambiguous. Unless you are an idiot, you know corners were cut. If you don’t demand your 16 hours, you are complicit.

    Unless YOUR class really was 16 hours.
    Thank you. When taking a class, this is a, hard, objective standard that matters. It doesn't matter what we think, believe, hope, wish or pray for. This is what we must do...except for those willing to be a test case.

    My 16 hour W&C class is set for October 23. I chatted with my instructor yesterday and we all damn well know we must, and shall, hit the 16 hour mark.
     

    4g64loser

    Bad influence
    Jan 18, 2007
    6,641
    maryland
    On top of that, I got the opportunity to become a full time volunteer staff member of one of (in my mind) best State Delegates this state ever had, Mike Smigiel, uner the Andy.
    If the first year as Vice President taught me how the sausage was made from the public side, the second year (Now President) taught me how the sausage was made from the working side.
    I wouldn't trade either year of the experience for any thing.
    Smigiel was a good man. Had guts and spoke loud in a state where most of his legiscritter colleagues just wanted him to go away.

    Sausage making isn't pretty.
     

    hodgepodge

    Senior Member (Gold)
    Sep 3, 2009
    10,104
    Arnold, MD
    On top of that, I got the opportunity to become a full time volunteer staff member of one of (in my mind) best State Delegates this state ever had, Mike Smigiel, uner the Andy.
    If the first year as Vice President taught me how the sausage was made from the public side, the second year (Now President) taught me how the sausage was made from the working side.
    I wouldn't trade either year of the experience for any thing.

    That all is part of why some of us listen.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,755
    Glen Burnie
    Apparently MSP can also revoke your permit if you don’t have it on you when you are carrying…
    What kind of a dim-bulb would strap up and not make sure that their card is also on them? That's like hopping behind the wheel of a car and not having your drivers license.
     

    Bountied

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 6, 2012
    7,194
    Pasadena
    Holiday inn express? You need to experience life on the wild side of shirt term lodgings. The La Quinta in glen dirty has great amenities, such as hot and cold running hookers. And thieves on standby to unload your vehicle overnight. We call it the La Cunta inn. And refuse to let work put us up there.
    I'll take hot running hookers for $100 Alex.
     

    Bountied

    Ultimate Member
    Apr 6, 2012
    7,194
    Pasadena
    What kind of a dim-bulb would strap up and not make sure that their card is also on them? That's like hopping behind the wheel of a car and not having your drivers license.
    Yeah but they don't take away your drivers license if you don't have it.
     

    teratos

    My hair is amazing
    MDS Supporter
    Patriot Picket
    Jan 22, 2009
    59,908
    Bel Air
    What kind of a dim-bulb would strap up and not make sure that their card is also on them? That's like hopping behind the wheel of a car and not having your drivers license.
    Have you ever left your wallet at home? Ever?
     

    GTOGUNNER

    IANAL, PATRIOT PICKET!!
    Patriot Picket
    Dec 16, 2010
    5,494
    Carroll County!
    Apparently MSP can also revoke your permit if you don’t have it on you when you are carrying…

    Would you rather be charged for carrying without a permit?
    I mean I don’t agree with permits but till we get stuff constitutionally, we have to deal with what we have. They can take your firearm as well.


    Sent from an undisclosed location.
     

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