Kanye, Antisemitism, and JEWISH Conspiracy Theories On THIS Site

[trickg]

It's uncanny, most people have never met a Jew, or if they did, they didn't know. Thanks for your support.

At this point I have known or worked with a number of Jews. There's my buddy the drummer, I worked and sat next to a gal named Marina - she'd immigrated from St. Petersburg, Russia, so we jokingly referred to her as "The Mad Russian," and I shared an office with a fellow named Adam. Adam and I used to roll out and go to lunch together almost every day. I currently work with one guy who is in my mind is a brilliant DBA, but he's very obviously Jewish - he's Orthodox, but another guy on my small work team is Jewish as well - practicing, but not Orthodox. My daughter is part of a study group for a couple of classes, and the core of that group is a couple of gentlemen who are Orthodox Jews. My Dentist is a Jew - he's seriously considering moving to Irael when he retires. He's also seriously into his guns - loves shooting and loves the idea of being able to protect himself and his family. His son has studied to become a Rabi, and either is now, or will be very soon.

We were on a cruise on the Baltic Sea a few years back and I chatted with an ex-pat family on the ship. They had been living in the US, but they felt they wanted to really connect with their culture and heritage, and by that point had moved to Israel and had become citizens. Had they not shared that with me, I never would have known. It came up because there were so many Americans on the ship that because of how they spoke English, I just assumed they were Americans too.

I mean, people are just people, right? These folks I've mentioned above are just other people I know who also happen to be Jews. To me, that's not really what defines them.

 

[John from MD]

I am a conservative, freedom-loving, America-loving, constitutional-loving Jew. My grandfather fought in Guadalcanal with the 1st Marine Division, my mother served as a commissioned officer in the PHS who led hurricane Andrew relief efforts in Florida and Louisiana and received accommodations from President George HW Bush.

The idea of a Jewish conspiracy theory is over 120 years old and has been disproven many times. It was created by the Russian Secret Police during the Czar to bring attention away from the from falling Monarchy and to scapegoat their economic failures. There are 15 million Jews in the world representing less than .001% of the world's population. 7 million in Israel, 6 million in the U.S., and the rest scattered throughout the world due to long histories of antisemitism perpetrated and inspired by the Catholic Church (thankfully, the Church formally repudiated religious antisemitism in the 1960s).

You might ask yourself if Jews are such a small part of the population, why are we overrepresented in business, politics, art and culture, medicine, etc? The answer is very, very simple. Our religion and culture require us to be educated. The Torah says (for Christians, your bible, too) to find a teacher and to learn.

Family, education, and community are the center of our culture. This is the conspiracy to our success. That's it!

Why banking (not so much anymore)? Because religious Antisemitism from the Catholic Church prevented us from holding real jobs except for usury and merchants for 1700 years.

As far as the conspiracy goes... there's an old Jewish joke that says if you get 5 Jews in a room, you will get 10 opinions. The state of Israel has over 30 political parties. There is not much Jews agree on. In fact, we can't even agree on the definition of a Jew. We had to leave that to the Nazis and Hitler.

Why do 65% of American Jews vote Democrat?
They didn't vote Democrat until FDR, and stopped voting Democrat until civil rights. Most Jews, including my grandfather and great-grandfather, always voted republican. What changed? Until the civil rights movement, there used to be signs that would say, "No Blacks, No Jews, No Dogs." History conveniently forgot about the other two words after "No Blacks." Jews, just like the word Blacks, Christians, Hispanics, etc. is not monolithic. There are many, many different types of ethnic, religious, and even atheist Jews.

I don't want to have to worry about dropping my kid off at Hebrew school. I don't want to have to worry about attending services and worshiping. I don't want to worry about feeling like an outsider in my own country, which my family for many generations has helped to serve and build. This is why I got my wear and carry license. This is why I train. This is why I will teach my kids to be aware and to protect themselves. They day of Jews not protecting themselves is now long gone. Believe that!

This is how the Jews I grew up with thought. However, something has changed and many Jews, including my IL's, have swallowed the demonrat BS.

 

[wpage]

Welcome and thanks for your post. Agree that Jews get a bad rap. It bears repeating the contributions of the great Jews that have done so much in the professions.

Why Jews continue to be persecuted is inexplicable.

 

[TheOriginalMexicanBob]

Welcome and thanks for your post. Agree that Jews get a bad rap. It bears repeating the contributions of the great Jews that have done so much in the professions.

Why Jews continue to be persecuted is inexplicable.

It was once explained to me by a man much wiser than I that Jews, Blacks and others that have been persecuted for any otherwise unfathomable reasons that those who discriminate know they're part of the underbelly of whatever society they live in and need to have someone else to blame for their plight and alleviate themselves of the responsibility for such. That includes the KKK, Nazis, Antifa, BLM and most any other person or group that blames others for their lack of success in the world.

 

[md_rick_o]

Welcome, i have known a number of Jewish people. The way i knew them to be Jewish was while in the military i would take duty for them on their holidays and they would cover the Christian one (if asked) without hesitation. I would say Merry Christmas to them and get Happy Hanukah back while we just laughed. I don't understand any racism and get so sick of hearing that i'm racist because i'm white.

 

[Squaregrouper]

I'm a Lutheran but live in Pikesville. So I got that going for me, which is nice.

 

[pbharvey]

I am a conservative, freedom-loving, America-loving, constitutional-loving Jew.

There are 15 million Jews in the world representing less than .001% of the world's population. 7 million in Israel, 6 million in the U.S., and the rest scattered throughout the world due to long histories of antisemitism perpetrated and inspired by the Catholic Church (thankfully, the Church formally repudiated religious antisemitism in the 1960s).

Why banking (not so much anymore)? Because religious Antisemitism from the Catholic Church prevented us from holding real jobs except for usury and merchants for 1700 years.

Welcome to the forum.
I was just wondering how you feel about catholics? lol

Could you explain your thread title please? It sounds rather insulting to the forum at large as if we harbor those ideas here.

Also pretty much no one here cares what religion you are or what religion I am. We do care about guns and shooting to the point that we get to know one another and eventually form friendships. Those friendships span race, nationality, religious beliefs and political party although you better bring a strong argument for supporting the political party that is trying to take your guns away.

Sincerely welcome to the forum but go easy on smashing catholics or mormons or any other religion you choose to be responsible for your woes.

 

[KevinK]

I'm a Lutheran but live in Pikesville. So I got that going for me, which is nice.

Gunga galunga!

 

[Edwonbass]

Speaking of Jewish folks with guns, my best friend growing up was Jewish. Probably still is LOL. Anyway, his dad who I considered my "second" dad had more guns than anyone I've ever known. He owned an auto repair shop that specialized in VWs. I would help my friend sweep up the shop on weekends. If either one of us got ourselves in any kind of trouble during the week, we would be working for free in the shop. We didn't care, there were Playboys in the bathroom!

 

[SkiPatrolDude]

That's unfortunate! There are many stupid rabbis just like they're are priests and pastors. Unfortunately, you ran into a stupid rabbi.

I went to an orthodox Jewish school from preschool to 12th grade, and I can say my experience was less than stellar. Many, many bad teachers and Rabbi's. I have no doubt it impacted my beliefs and desires to identify with any form of Jewish life.

I am very proud to be the grandson of a holocaust survivor and my Jewish heritage, but that is about as far as it goes for me. I am otherwise, godless.

 

[RFBfromDE]

I am very proud to be the grandson of a holocaust survivor and my Jewish heritage, but that is about as far as it goes for me. I am otherwise, godless.

That's a shame.

I encourage others not to blame God for man's misdeeds.

Usually unsuccessfully!

 

[davsco]

not really pointed at the OP, but why do folks need to let others know they're jewish? i don't see folks running around saying they're catholic or methodist. the only religion i really see self-identify is jewish folks.

that said i really could care less what one's religion is. bottom line is you're born into that religion and i see very few that change into another religion.

and who GAF what kanye west or any other "entertainer" thinks or does, or who they like or hate or what political party they are. don't see why folks are so wrapped up in that.

oh well, that's it for now...

 

[KevinK]

not really pointed at the OP, but why do folks need to let others know they're jewish? i don't see folks running around saying they're catholic or methodist. the only religion i really see self-identify is jewish folks.

that said i really could care less what one's religion is. bottom line is you're born into that religion and i see very few that change into another religion.

and who GAF what kanye west or any other "entertainer" thinks or does, or who they like or hate or what political party they are. don't see why folks are so wrapped up in that.

oh well, that's it for now...

Vegans, cross-fitters, Jews .....

 

[SkiPatrolDude]

That's a shame.

I encourage others not to blame God for man's misdeeds.

Usually unsuccessfully!

I don't blame my teachers for my lack of faith, just commenting that it probably didn't help. I have many other reasons why I am not a believer. But I fully support anyone and everyone who does.

 

[pbharvey]

I went to an orthodox Jewish school from preschool to 12th grade, and I can say my experience was less than stellar. Many, many bad teachers and Rabbi's. I have no doubt it impacted my beliefs and desires to identify with any form of Jewish life.

I am very proud to be the grandson of a holocaust survivor and my Jewish heritage, but that is about as far as it goes for me. I am otherwise, godless.

You should ask for a refund!

 

[Huckleberry]

Come on over for Shabbat dinner. I'm not fighting you. My invitation is serious.

Can I bring my friend, Huey? It will be good News for him since he’s walking a thin line too

 

[Huckleberry]

FYI "Goy" means "other nation". It's not derogatory. One of our hymns is "lo yis a goy el goy cherev" nation shall not lift sword against nation.

Be nice and no one will ignore you.

FYI 2U…..Goy meaning Nation is Biblical Hebrew into KJV English. Into Latin, goy translates into ethnicus which is a heathen or pagan.

The modern use of Goy is for Gentiles and other non-landsmen so we don’t have to get bent over semantics,

But lucky for you, my kosher brother from another mother and Head MDS Mensch, Eruby made me an honorary MDS Landsmen a long time ago.

The only Jewish Conspiracy going on MDS is when Eruby is going to get back from his current conundrum.

Now if you spent some time on the forum and introduce yourself proper than you would realize that your first post was an unnecessary troll post and I was just screwing with you with my Huey Lewis response.

As for what I’m fighting for? Same thing as your Zayde and every other American Service Man and Woman since 1775.

 

[Ammo Jon]

There’s plenty of us here, only 1 member here gives me the anti Semitic vibe so I have him on block.

 

[[Kev308]]

I worked with an orthodox Jewish company for a little while. Very based people and family/God focused. Personally I feel like most of the hate Jews get is because they stick together and help each other out generation after generation. Many other groups eat each other alive and are jealous of the cohesion Jewish people have.

Just my opinion.

 

[Ammo Jon]

I worked with an orthodox Jewish company for a little while. Very based people and family/God focused. Personally I feel like most of the hate Jews get is because they stick together and help each other out generation after generation. Many other groups eat each other alive and are jealous of the cohesion Jewish people have.

Just my opinion.

That might be applicable to religious Jews but Jews that keep secular like myself are no more cohesive than any other group. I think a lot of the hate just comes from ignorance, I’ve had someone ask me if Jews believe in Jesus. Truth be told the difference between Jews and Christians is quite small.