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    Just trying to be free
    Jan 21, 2012
    197
    Oh yeah, it's has just gotten started. They will not just roll over, BUT!

    We have time to educate more friends and family so that the next round of volleys, our numbers can be larger! We have to be ready, the "Frosh's" of the world won't give up nor can we.....

    Only 6 hours of sleep but I feel great!
     

    EL1227

    R.I.P.
    Patriot Picket
    Nov 14, 2010
    20,274
    I hate to be a jerk, but there are more good things to come... :innocent0

    Good as in good or good as in aw crap, not again ???

    Peter Franchot was on WMAL this morning SLAMMING Miller and Owe'Malley for not passing a budget while respectively playing 'casino games' and campaigning nationally. If Frosh decides to 'tag' HB579 stuff onto the budget or casino bills that will be brought up in the special budget session, someone should contact both Franchot and WMAL since he was on their morning program calling Owe'Malley and Miller out.

    If the Governor, Frosh, and Miller would do their jobs instead to trying to screw the gun owners of MD, or placating illegals and gay marriage proponents, they could have passed a balanced budget that wouldn't have horrendous tax increases or draconian cuts ... at least that's Franchot's cut on it. They had just ONE thing to accomplish and that was produce a budget ... and they failed because they have an progressive agenda to push.
     

    dlmcbm

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 5, 2011
    1,207
    Sabillasville, Md.
    Good as in good or good as in aw crap, not again ???

    Peter Franchot was on WMAL this morning SLAMMING Miller and Owe'Malley for not passing a budget while respectively playing 'casino games' and campaigning nationally. If Frosh decides to 'tag' HB579 stuff onto the budget or casino bills that will be brought up in the special budget session, someone should contact both Franchot and WMAL since he was on their morning program calling Owe'Malley and Miller out.

    If the Governor, Frosh, and Miller would do their jobs instead to trying to screw the gun owners of MD, or placating illegals and gay marriage proponents, they could have passed a balanced budget that wouldn't have horrendous tax increases or draconian cuts ... at least that's Franchot's cut on it. They had just ONE thing to accomplish and that was produce a budget ... and they failed because they have an progressive agenda to push.
    I THINK I read in another thread yesterday that an amendment has to be under the same title or something like that?? Basically HB579 was about training for retired LEO. therefor he could amend it to change anything about training and permits etc. I don't think you can put a "gun bill" amendment on a budget or casino bill. Hope someone can chime in on this to make sure I am correct.
     

    Glaug-Eldare

    Senior Member
    BANNED!!!
    Jan 17, 2011
    1,837
    I THINK I read in another thread yesterday that an amendment has to be under the same title or something like that?? Basically HB579 was about training for retired LEO. therefor he could amend it to change anything about training and permits etc. I don't think you can put a "gun bill" amendment on a budget or casino bill. Hope someone can chime in on this to make sure I am correct.

    You are correct -- this is a constitutional provision.

    Constitution of Maryland said:
    SEC. 29. The style of all Laws of this State shall be, "Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Maryland:" and all Laws shall be passed by original bill; and every Law enacted by the General Assembly shall embrace but one subject, and that shall be described in its title; and no Law, nor section of Law, shall be revived, or amended by reference to its title, or section only; nor shall any Law be construed by reason of its title, to grant powers, or confer rights which are not expressly contained in the body of the Act; and it shall be the duty of the General Assembly, in amending any article, or section of the Code of Laws of this State, to enact the same, as the said article, or section would read when amended. And whenever the General Assembly shall enact any Public General Law, not amendatory of any section, or article in the said Code, it shall be the duty of the General Assembly to enact the same, in articles and sections, in the same manner, as the Code is arranged, and to provide for the publication of all additions and alterations, which may be made to the said Code.
     

    swinokur

    In a State of Bliss
    Patriot Picket
    Apr 15, 2009
    55,496
    Westminster USA
    There are almost 500 people online here at 1 in the morning on a Tuesday. Anyone who thinks our community can be rolled over needs to check into a clinic.

    We turned a corner.

    My thoughts exactly. I think the sleeping giant is awake. We ain't going back after the past 2 months.

    It surprises me that the antis in MD cannot see this exactly like the civil rights movement in the 60's. They certainly were passionate about that. Guess they don't view the 2A in the same light, even though it s exactly the same thing. I'd like to ask Frosh his position on civil rights and then ask what he thinks the the difference is.
     

    Glaug-Eldare

    Senior Member
    BANNED!!!
    Jan 17, 2011
    1,837
    My thoughts exactly. I think the sleeping giant is awake. We ain't going back after the past 2 months.

    It surprises me that the antis in MD cannot see this exactly like the civil rights movement in the 60's. They certainly were passionate about that. Guess they don't view the 2A in the same light, even though it s exactly the same thing. I'd like to ask Frosh his position on civil rights and then ask what he thinks the the difference is.

    Well, treating it exactly like the civil rights movement is good and bad. RKBA is a civil right, and has been restricted on discriminatory grounds. During the civil rights movement, people seem to have stood together more effectively. Like I mentioned in another thread, there were "outside agitators" physically traveling to the deep south and challenging injustice. We've got fantastic allies around the country, but most people aren't willing to make the necessary sacrifices yet. Eighty people at the OHR? 6,000 members in a state of 5.7 million? Gun shops and hunters shrugging their shoulders? We've got to take this seriously, because it is important to win everywhere. Nobody joined NAACP and then turned around and said "What are you dumbasses doing? It's the south, give up. Move to Pennsylvania."

    We're going to have to teach our neighbors to care about what's happened to them in the last forty years (and more), and to believe in what we can accomplish by working together. MSI's only eight years old, and we've prevented some real catastrophes. We've got to think about this as an issue of civil rights abuse and not a niche issue.

    On the other hand, bringing up parallels to the civil rights movement can be extremely dangerous, because gun rights are seen as a niche issue by many people, and they get upset when you compare racial issues to them. Racial equality is universally recognized as a Very Big Deal and a Very Good Thing -- gun rights haven't achieved that status, and premature comparison just alienates people who don't see things our way yet. It'd be like trying to get y'all angry about the two-plate issue by comparing car registration to Jews wearing stars in Nazi Germany or something. Tactics and tact are crucial.
     

    Mr H

    Banana'd
    My thoughts exactly. I think the sleeping giant is awake. We ain't going back after the past 2 months.

    It surprises me that the antis in MD cannot see this exactly like the civil rights movement in the 60's. They certainly were passionate about that. Guess they don't view the 2A in the same light, even though it s exactly the same thing. I'd like to ask Frosh his position on civil rights and then ask what he thinks the the difference is.

    They thought we'd stay in our place. We got motivated. We got uppity.

    Life has changed.
     

    Patrick

    MSI Executive Member
    Apr 26, 2009
    7,725
    Calvert County
    Since we get attention here, I'll post this for the benefit of the lurkers.

    Urban Dictionary - Froshed

    Enjoy the first definition, Brian.

    Freaking love it.

    I'd adjust with an additional explanation of who Frosh is, as in ", referring to MD Senator Brian Frosh, a lawyer who objected to civil immunity for those defending themselves from criminal attackers in their own homes."
     

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