HB36 Handgun Permit – Applicant Qualifications

[rambling_one]

This idea has merit and will be suggested to the powers that be this week. Stay tuned.

Great! It is after all the crux of the problem.

 

[Mr H]

The saddest part is, it can be done administratively.

 

[MJD438]

I made a similar plea during my hearing before the review board.

It would also be nice to have some actual teeth to the limitations on the HPRB process. I applied for a "formal appeal" to the HPRB back in August, as one of the pre-stay applicants, and have been soundly ignored since that time.

 

[Seagrave1963]

If gay marriage is a freakin' "civil right", then I demand that self-defense be regarded as one also.

Been seeing some round, blue stickers with "Self defense is a civil right" - where are they coming from and where can I get them?

 

[Mr H]

PM me an address, and I'll mail you a couple sheets.

 

[Seagrave1963]

Thanks MrH - PM sent

 

[Straightshooter]

It would also be nice to have some actual teeth to the limitations on the HPRB process. I applied for a "formal appeal" to the HPRB back in August, as one of the pre-stay applicants, and have been soundly ignored since that time.

Your application may end up being one of the very few that stay in the system long enough to be valid when concealed carry for everyone is finally approved. Wait, I forgot, when Hell freezes over all apps will be void.

 

[dblas]

It would also be nice to have some actual teeth to the limitations on the HPRB process. I applied for a "formal appeal" to the HPRB back in August, as one of the pre-stay applicants, and have been soundly ignored since that time.

PM me please

 

[Mr H]

It would also be nice to have some actual teeth to the limitations on the HPRB process. I applied for a "formal appeal" to the HPRB back in August, as one of the pre-stay applicants, and have been soundly ignored since that time.

I requested an "informal review" on July 11...

Crickets there, too.

 

[Gryphon]

Some of you guys that have requested and are waiting for informal (or even formal) reviews may want to think about banding together and filing a suit in Circuit Court, i.e. filing in court based on a "deemed denied basis" for the informal (or formal) review. You might get lucky and get a judge that is more receptive to your arguments than the review board; especially since the review board is ignoring the law and depriving you of even the right of redress through an appeal hearing? Its amounts to letting the Licensing Division reject your application with no right of appeal. I'd have to think about it some more, but if nothing else it would bring attention to the fact that the law is being arbitrarily applied by the agency.

 

[Mooseman]

I completed my informal review over the telephone. I was denied immediately. I applied for formal review and have heard nothing since.

 

[dblas]

I completed my informal review over the telephone. I was denied immediately. I applied for formal review and have heard nothing since.

PM me please

 

[Biggfoot44]

New Hampshire requires G&S ( or whatever thermenology), the goes on to state " Hunting OR Target shooting OR Self-Protection Shall deemed G&S .

Gov Bob could have done this administraively in a cpl hours, but he was more concerned in being Mr Bipartisan Nice Guy futilely trying to get reelected.

 

[Gryphon]

Exactly. Bob pandered too much and didn't play to his base, and was way too soft on 2A issues when he had the chance. Taxes, fees, whatever Bob all the same, but at least he didn't grow the budget like MOM.

 

[Paladin]

Now that the 9th Circuit Appeals has ruled San Diego County 's G&S as unconstitutional it might force SCOTUS to take a look at G&S with the end being that it gets struck down - then Del Mike is a Winner and his head bashing (against this wall) can end!

 

[Minuteman]

Exactly. Bob pandered too much and didn't play to his base, and was way too soft on 2A issues when he had the chance. Taxes, fees, whatever Bob all the same, but at least he didn't grow the budget like MOM.

Very true. Bob didn't come to us until the 12th hour of his second campaign. Craig isn't making that mistake, his people were handing out stickers saying Craig is for concealed carry.

 

[Vile Shadow]

New Hampshire requires G&S ( or whatever thermenology), the goes on to state " Hunting OR Target shooting OR Self-Protection Shall deemed G&S.

You mean you mean actually don't have to drag yourself into the State Police barracks bleeding from bullet or knife wounds from someone that really did just try to kill you to get G&S?

 

[Broncolou]

I just got my renewal returned to me. I need an 8 hour training class to renew a license I already had previously...... I am 60days left to expiration and I was unaware of this requirement and it was not on the application checklist..... Pretty pissed right now!!!!

I got my training class in... It was the first one offered(BCG&F) after the date I had my application returned. It was offered on the date of my expiration, over a month and a half later. I turned my application in with everything requested in person and had them check it. I asked about the class not be listed on their , online application and she admitted to it being a problem. Now I am in lapse because they cant get their online application fixed. I was immediately infuriated. Knee jerk BS..... their curriculum is just an outline given to instructors to fill with what they want to. The live fire exercise is the only thing they gave explicit instruction on....

Oh' when I asked how long the backlog was...she said "about 90 days".......

I am sick and tired of jumping through their hoops to live the way I have always lived.....I will continue to do so as an "FU" to their system no matter how much is costs in time and money...... sorry for the rant....just thought I would share.

 

[Sveiks]

since it is the phrase "good and substantial" that is the poison pill in this legislation.... AND it is specifically up to the MSP to decide what G&S is I was wondering what your thoughts are of the following.



1st don't repeal anything.

2nd have the legislature define G&S.



It seems that this would not only document a legally bind definition so we're not chasing ghost on the applications. It would also go e some thing more concrete to challenge the constitutionality of.



I realize that this might cut both ways, but it might be a start.



Thoughts?

 

[MJD438]

since it is the phrase "good and substantial" that is the poison pill in this legislation.... AND it is specifically up to the MSP to decide what G&S is I was wondering what your thoughts are of the following.



1st don't repeal anything.

2nd have the legislature define G&S.



It seems that this would not only document a legally bind definition so we're not chasing ghost on the applications. It would also go e some thing more concrete to challenge the constitutionality of.



I realize that this might cut both ways, but it might be a start.



Thoughts?

MSP asked for that guidance over the past couple of years and several legislators have attempted to add legislation to do that very thing, including this year. The attempts this year, in both the House of Delegates and the Senate, were desk-drawered by Vallario & Frosh (presumably at the demand of TPTB) and not permitted a vote in committee, much less on the respective floors.