Active LEO in full uniform asked to remove firearm (Medstar urgent care)

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  • miles71

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    Maybe if more if this kind of stuff is publicly known the stupidity of these restrictions can be pulled into the light.

    TD
     

    shootin the breeze

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    :wave:

    From the original confusion, where the thread title had hospital instead of urgent care.
    Doesn’t matter whether he said hospital or urgent care. He said X-ray. He didn’t say MRI. Doesn’t matter if the X-ray is in a trailer, urgent care or hospital. It’s just an X-ray.
     

    thedutchtouch

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    For the record I agree with all of you that the policy is dumb. My only arguments were that an off duty officer shouldn't get any more privilege than a law abiding citizen. The policy is the problem, not the application to this specific dad because of his (work) clothes work while not working. That's all.
     

    crazycarl7

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    I checked this morning.
    Polozzi is still the corporate Cheik of security for Medstar.
    For the record I agree with all of you that the policy is dumb. My only arguments were that an off duty officer shouldn't get any more privilege than a law abiding citizen. The policy is the problem, not the application to this specific dad because of his (work) clothes work while not working. That's all.
    I agree and disagree. I do believe that no matter what you do for a living you should have equal protection, however, an officer in uniform, whether working or on their way home from work, has more of a target on their back. This event was a virtue signaling escapade by a hospital system that is known to be anti 2A. They sent a message which was received.

    Two years ago my sons Medstar pediatrician asked my him if there were any guns in the home and how many, at intake and part of normal questioning (another true story). This is where the appointment promptly ended. Woke anti 2A agenda at its finest.
     

    brianns

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    For the record I agree with all of you that the policy is dumb. My only arguments were that an off duty officer shouldn't get any more privilege than a law abiding citizen. The policy is the problem, not the application to this specific dad because of his (work) clothes work while not working. That's all.
    It's not a privilege issue. The safety issue angle made some sense. But even that seemed a fairly weak argument for needing some policy that starts at a front door. I can go into a hospital with my work clothes and work tools.
     

    thedutchtouch

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    I agree and disagree. I do believe that no matter what you do for a living you should have equal protection, however, an officer in uniform, whether working or on their way home from work, has more of a target on their back. This event was a virtue signaling escapade by a hospital system that is known to be anti 2A. They sent a message which was received.

    Two years ago my sons Medstar pediatrician asked my him if there were any guns in the home and how many, at intake and part of normal questioning (another true story). This is where the appointment promptly ended. Woke anti 2A agenda at its finest.
    Literally every medical center/hospital etc that I can think of in the area has a no firearms in buildings policy as far as I can remember. It's been a few years since I was actively going to area hospitals for work, but remember similar policies everywhere I went. Again, I'm not saying I personally agree with the policies, but seems like we are making mountains out of the wrong molehills here. I get it that there's many passionate people here though, so won't keep repeating myself.
     

    epps1919

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    At Anne arundel hospital now.


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    Bob A

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    I'm assuming that all the above is a problem limited to the half-dozen repressive states like MD, NY, CA, NJ t al.

    Anyone out there in Real America have thises issues? I'd like to hear about it.
     

    5cary

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    If politicians are trying to pass a law that needs a carve out like that it should be a clear indication that it's a bad law and shouldn't be passed at all.

    So a UNIFORMED police officer with a firearm is now a "carve out"?

    You want to talk about off duty/retired LEO's getting carve outs, I'm betting we'd agree on the subject, for reasons I stated earlier. UNIFORMED here is the key, at least for me.
     

    rseymorejr

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    So a UNIFORMED police officer with a firearm is now a "carve out"?

    You want to talk about off duty/retired LEO's getting carve outs, I'm betting we'd agree on the subject, for reasons I stated earlier. UNIFORMED here is the key, at least for me.
    I was basically agreeing with your statement, #2.
     

    inkd

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    Well, good to know. **** Medstar then. There is no way I'm going to be in uniform unarmed.
    I can tell you that if you are on duty, in uniform or plainclothes, no one is going to tell you to disarm yourself.

    If you are off duty in plain clothes or uniform, I can't say if anyone would give a damn or not.
     

    Sirex

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    Oct 30, 2010
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    Well, let me tell you, it makes me feel safer police are being asked to removed their weapons before they come in. I mean if I am sitting in the ER next to a gang shooting victim, or a dude high on PCP, the last thing I want is for them to feel threatened or oppressed by a LEO with a killing machine with a high capacity clipazine. Maybe those LEOs who are upset by it could speak to the hospital's army of social workers working for social equity, and they'd understand the under priviledged.
     

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