Mr H
Banana'd
Don't hear a Fat Lady.
VICTORY IN PALMER!!!!
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rlc2
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Interesting lede on WAPO reporting about new Mayors priorities...
Jeez, you'd almost think WAPO is coordinating the talking points here...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...uriel-bowser-you-have-a-mayor-who-hates-guns/
Used to be the WAPO was, y'know, a newspaper....news, that is.
Woodward and Bernstein, and all that...
Jim Vanderhei formed Politico, to be the echo chamber for DC and NY press, but other than Volokh reporting on the law, after the fact, all you get from WAPO is warmed over Talking Point Memos...
You'd almost think they are colluding with Media Matters, so pathetically obvious what they report on, vs what they studiously wont...
Maybe Bezos regrets letting Klein walk, and VoxSplain things to the few progtards left on the Plantation in DC...
Ben Graham must be rolling in his grave.
Jeez, you'd almost think WAPO is coordinating the talking points here...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...uriel-bowser-you-have-a-mayor-who-hates-guns/
Used to be the WAPO was, y'know, a newspaper....news, that is.
Woodward and Bernstein, and all that...
Jim Vanderhei formed Politico, to be the echo chamber for DC and NY press, but other than Volokh reporting on the law, after the fact, all you get from WAPO is warmed over Talking Point Memos...
You'd almost think they are colluding with Media Matters, so pathetically obvious what they report on, vs what they studiously wont...
Maybe Bezos regrets letting Klein walk, and VoxSplain things to the few progtards left on the Plantation in DC...
Ben Graham must be rolling in his grave.
You mean the late Ben Bradlee? He was the EIC.
Phil Graham was the publisher for many years followed by his sister Katheryn.
Phil Graham was the publisher for many years followed by his sister Katheryn.
danb
dont be a dumbass
Honestly, I found it refreshing. I hate guns and will regulate them as strictly as possible, says the Mayor! None of this I love the 2nd amendment but, crap.
I wish the govt would take the same approach to free speech and privacy. We hate people criticizing us and will prevent it as much as possible! etc.
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
Order by the court of appeals in Palmer. Plaintiffs' Motion for summary affirmance: Denied. No surprise there. DC's Motion to hold the appeal in abeyance: Denied. That's a bit of surprise. See attached.
That should light a fire under Judge Scullin to finish up at the district.
This will be interesting to see DC fight on two fronts at once.
pcfixer
Ultimate Member
I couldn't open it up. What does it say? In laymen's terms please.
Lol PCFIXER, great minds think alike..... Or not so great in our case.
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
Gura filed a motion for summary affirmance asking the court affirm the district court's favorable decision without further briefing. That was denied, which means that the case is assigned to a merits panel and the district's appeal will be fully briefed and argued. The denial was not a surprise because the standard for summary affirmance is very difficult to meet and was not satisfied here.
The district asked to the court appeals to hold its appeal in abeyance (not proceed with full briefing and argument) pending the current enforcement proceedings in district court. Gura strongly opposed and the court just agreed with Gura. That means that the case will go to full briefing and argument without waiting for the district court's decision on pending motions. Here it is again.
So wait, circuit could decide whether to accept appeal before district has even really spelled out what compliance with the original ruling looks like? That just seems weird.
Code:
Kharn
Ultimate Member
Motion and merit panels are unlikely to share the same members for a given case.
Everything I learned about law, I learned from MDSHOOTERs and nice people there <grin>
(P.S. Just kidding though, it seems a reasonable way to learn a lot about the court system.)
esqappellate
President, MSI
- Feb 12, 2012
- 7,408
The issues are really distinct. And a decision in favor of DC on this appeal would moot out the enforcement proceedings. So, not so odd when you think about it.
rlc2
Active Member
Thank you Esqappellate!
+1 on anothers comment about the help understanding the legal process that is baffling to the newb layman, here.
PS: if it hasnt already been posted somewhere here already- coincidentally this just posted at calguns.net,
h/t user Sun Tzu in the 2A Litigation and Updates section, on how the Supreme Court works.
http://www.scotusblog.com/reference/educational-resources/supreme-court-procedure/
+1 on anothers comment about the help understanding the legal process that is baffling to the newb layman, here.
PS: if it hasnt already been posted somewhere here already- coincidentally this just posted at calguns.net,
h/t user Sun Tzu in the 2A Litigation and Updates section, on how the Supreme Court works.
http://www.scotusblog.com/reference/educational-resources/supreme-court-procedure/
wjackcooper
Active Member
- Feb 9, 2011
- 689
The combined arguments Mr. Gura advanced in support of his motion for Summary Affirmance (although the motion was denied) and in his opposition to the Motion to Hold in Abeyance (also denied) apparently succeeded in accurately portraying the present posture of the fundamental issues in the case. At any rate, the Motions Panel was persuaded that final rulings by the lower court were unnecessary at this juncture.
Mr. Gura’s skill, as an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, is unsurpassed . . . or so it seems to me. Especially noteworthy is his evident ability to see the whole field which most of us see, if at all, only with hindsight; however, the end result will likely depend on the ideology of those empowered (as the data pointed out by kcbrown clearly indicates) to make the final decision.
We can hope that those who think the Constitution means what it says are in the majority (despite the odds) when the case is finalized.
Regards
Jack
Mr. Gura’s skill, as an advocate for the 2nd Amendment, is unsurpassed . . . or so it seems to me. Especially noteworthy is his evident ability to see the whole field which most of us see, if at all, only with hindsight; however, the end result will likely depend on the ideology of those empowered (as the data pointed out by kcbrown clearly indicates) to make the final decision.
We can hope that those who think the Constitution means what it says are in the majority (despite the odds) when the case is finalized.
Regards
Jack
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