Funding HQL Lawsuit

[Sthomas229]

Thought of that, if you happen to have any ins with any please make the introductions.

I'm a lowly wrench turner. I don't hobnob in Nap town. Sorry

 

[Mr H]

The "Free Money" HQL Lawsuit Funding Challenge...

I got to thinking last night (and we know how dangerous THAT can be!!)

In an effort to help fund the HQL lawsuit, I propose the following...

We all get free money. Gift cards/checks, "cash back", rebates... you name it. Shopping, loyalty rewards, credit card points, referrals... all kinds of it.

For example, I recently received a chunk for being a repeat customer at Enterprise Car Sales. I'll even be happy to do a referral, if anyone is shopping (where I'd get another chunk). PM me for details, if interested. In any case, I gladly handed that over to MSI today, for the suit.

What I would like everyone to do, it to take at least half the value of your "free money", and pass it along to MSI for purposes of assisting to fund the potential HQL lawsuit.

If you're not truly counting on that money for subsistence, this will cost you nothing, and might just show the commitment that other organizations can look at, and decide to jump in.

http://marylandshallissue.org/jmain/forum/public-forum/415-free-money-hql-lawsuit-funding-challenge

 

[Jaybeez]

I'm able to cater pit (beef/turkey/ham) w/ all the standard picnic faire (dogs, burgers, italian sausage). i can get the per person food cost down as low as i possibly can, and will donate my time, and can manage with mds or msi volunteers for help.

just throwing that out there.

 

[dogbone]

I believe, but not positive, that GoFundMe rules out anything firearm related

This is Rights related.

What would it cost to try? At worst, all they can do is say "No."

 

[Jaybeez]

What would it cost to try? At worst, all they can do is say "No."

they might not say "no" right away.

they may take a few days into the fund raising campaign before deciding. at that point it is cancelled and the donations refunded.

the problem is see, is the people that wont take the time to donate a second time.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

I'm able to cater pit (beef/turkey/ham) w/ all the standard picnic faire (dogs, burgers, italian sausage). i can get the per person food cost down as low as i possibly can, and will donate my time, and can manage with mds or msi volunteers for help.

just throwing that out there.

If MSI won't use a volunteer that isn't a member to staff a show, when they don't have enough members stepping up to do the show, what makes you think the MSI membership will step up and give their free time for a BBQ like you are talking about? MSI is pretty much being supported by the BoD and around another 10-20 members. If you want confirmation, look at who is actually doing the gun shows or town events.

I wish you the best of luck in doing this. If you need help and I have enough advance notice, I might be able to help out at the bbq, if this gets off the ground.

 

[dogbone]

If MSI won't use a volunteer that isn't a member to staff a show, when they don't have enough members stepping up to do the show, what makes you think the MSI membership will step up and give their free time for a BBQ like you are talking about? MSI is pretty much being supported by the BoD and around another 10-20 members. If you want confirmation, look at who is actually doing the gun shows or town events.

MSI is like any other organization in that 90% of the work gets done by 10% of the people. If a BBQ can be organized in time to get some funds for the court case, I'm pretty confident enough volunteers will step up and pitch in, either from within MSI or from the MDS community at large. The biggest task will be getting the event off the ground. From my limited experience in working on several Friends of the NRA banquets, it takes months of groundwork, planning, and plain old hard work.

I wish you the best of luck in doing this. If you need help and I have enough advance notice, I might be able to help out at the bbq, if this gets off the ground.

If it comes off, I look forward to working alongside you to kick the HQL to the curb in court.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

MSI is like any other organization in that 90% of the work gets done by 10% of the people. If a BBQ can be organized in time to get some funds for the court case, I'm pretty confident enough volunteers will step up and pitch in, either from within MSI or from the MDS community at large. The biggest task will be getting the event off the ground. From my limited experience in working on several Friends of the NRA banquets, it takes months of groundwork, planning, and plain old hard work.

If it comes off, I look forward to working alongside you to kick the HQL to the curb in court.

 

[Schipperke]

Has council already a game plan or is this just more vapor. Who are the attorneys for the plaintiffs, and are they set to go..

That is what needs to be sold to Angels. Big money spent by many 2A public figures would come back ten fold. No one is going to give that kind of money without specifics, and honestly surprised people dropping $50 too just because it sounds good.

It there a link with the players, the plan?

 

[teratos]

Has council already a game plan or is this just more vapor. Who are the attorneys for the plaintiffs, and are they set to go..

That is what needs to be sold to Angels. Big money spent by many 2A public figures would come back ten fold. No one is going to give that kind of money without specifics, and honestly surprised people dropping $50 too just because it sounds good.

It there a link with the players, the plan?

The same attorneys handling Kolbe I believe are the one's in mind for the HQL suit. The game plan is a simple one. Get money, pay the lawyers. The problem is raising the money.

 

[Schipperke]

The same attorneys handling Kolbe I believe are the one's in mind for the HQL suit. The game plan is a simple one. Get money, pay the lawyers. The problem is raising the money.

No doubt, with details like that. Just strikes me if the case had any merit at all why NRA or SAF doesn't publicize this HQL requirement as something to take on.
The ones this hurts too are dealers who lose impulse buyers w/o the credentials. If it really mattered much, not sure why some of the bigger dealers are not hot to go after this like they did in Kolbe.

 

[Arcamm]

My guess is they are eating this elephant one bit at a time.

 

[teratos]

No doubt, with details like that. Just strikes me if the case had any merit at all why NRA or SAF doesn't publicize this HQL requirement as something to take on. The ones this hurts too are dealers who lose impulse buyers w/o the credentials. If it really mattered much, not sure why some of the bigger dealers are not hot to go after this like they did in Kolbe.

ILA is tapped out. They are fighting lawsuits all across the nation. They said they just don't have the money.

 

[Sthomas229]

I'm able to cater pit (beef/turkey/ham) w/ all the standard picnic faire (dogs, burgers, italian sausage). i can get the per person food cost down as low as i possibly can, and will donate my time, and can manage with mds or msi volunteers for help.

just throwing that out there.

I'm in to help, have some experience doing larger cookouts for our Scout troop and such. I also teach the cooking merit badge so am familiar with safe food handling, temps and such.

 

[Jaybeez]

I'm in to help, have some experience doing larger cookouts for our Scout troop and such. I also teach the cooking merit badge so am familiar with safe food handling, temps and such.

i should add, 2-3 people is all i would need to run the mobile stand, and serve 100-200 easily. 3 volunteers makes it easy.

id suggested this last year as a fund raiser, to some of the org heads, as an "open carry cookout", to be hosted at one of the agc or other ranges in the Baltimore area.

freestate has hosted some of these cookouts as fundraisers.

we also need to get away from doing "events", like mds groups shoots or meet ups, that dont also raise funds. i may even take a jar to the hprb meetings.

 

[teratos]

i should add, 2-3 people is all i would need to run the mobile stand, and serve 100-200 easily. 3 volunteers makes it easy. id suggested this last year as a fund raiser, to some of the org heads, as an "open carry cookout", to be hosted at one of the agc or other ranges in the Baltimore area. freestate has hosted some of these cookouts as fundraisers. we also need to get away from doing "events", like mds groups shoots or meet ups, that dont also raise funds. i may even take a jar to the hprb meetings.

I can help.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

Is it possible/legal for the Mods to do on-line MDS raffles?

Instead of Karma giveaways for small items, folks could donate to the HQL cause and then be entered to win what folks donate.

This would require verification of payment and not sure of the logistical nightmare involved for the Mods.

 

[dblas]

]If MSI won't use a volunteer that isn't a member to staff a show,[/COLOR] when they don't have enough members stepping up to do the show, what makes you think the MSI membership will step up and give their free time for a BBQ like you are talking about? MSI is pretty much being supported by the BoD and around another 10-20 members. If you want confirmation, look at who is actually doing the gun shows or town events.

I wish you the best of luck in doing this. If you need help and I have enough advance notice, I might be able to help out at the bbq, if this gets off the ground.

We take volunteers from anywhere we can get them, whether they are a member or not.

If someone got turned down as a volunteer that wasn't a member then please PM that information so it can be corrected.

 

[dblas]

I'm able to cater pit (beef/turkey/ham) w/ all the standard picnic faire (dogs, burgers, italian sausage). i can get the per person food cost down as low as i possibly can, and will donate my time, and can manage with mds or msi volunteers for help.

just throwing that out there.

Tag, YOU ARE IT. I will e-mail you tonight to get this ball rolling.

 

[dblas]

Has council already a game plan or is this just more vapor. Who are the attorneys for the plaintiffs, and are they set to go..

Yes

That is what needs to be sold to Angels. Big money spent by many 2A public figures would come back ten fold. No one is going to give that kind of money without specifics, and honestly surprised people dropping $50 too just because it sounds good.

Introductions can be made to anyone that has deep pockets.

It there a link with the players, the plan?

Legal Strategy is not made public, for obvious reasons.