.22 LR Ammo

[MEGARMS]

I can see you are very passionate about this but have a hard time understanding how you can blame a few small time entrepreneurs for the collapse of a sport. I would tend to think that the shortage of 22 lr (perceived lack of supply) should really be attributed to the excessive demand caused by those whose hoard.

You see, it is those who buy all of the 22 lr, from both the retailers and the resellers alike, who are really making it tough for the recreational shooter to get their hands on it. Even still, who are we (you, me, or anyone else) to tell anyone what they can buy, sell, trade, hoard, etc. This is America for Christ Sake!!!

In the end, I would only ask you to think about one thing. If reselling ammunition were to become illegal tomorrow and everyone who does it were to cease immediately, do you believe the shelves at your local and/or online retailer would start to fill up with and maintain a level of 22 lr such that you could walk in or log on and purchase a brick at 2 in afternoon on any given day?

If you answer no to that question, then you would agree that resellers really have nothing to do with the perceived shortage and that the 22 lr would still disappear as soon as it hit the shelves because the demand is so high. If you answer yes, well then I will just keep my opinions to myself. Either way, you probably shouldn't drag the mods into it as they have nothing to do with it.

 

[Magnumite]

I know hoarders have a good bit to do with it. And they won't make selling ammo illegal tomorrow. Furthermore, I don't blame a few for scalping. What I did say was the collective effects harm the sport.

You can say what you want about free market and all the flimsy excuses scalpers use, they are buying the quantities they do just to scalp and gouge. There is no shooter comradery with those who do such. That is what irks me the most, speaking out of both sides of their mouths - "shooters need to stick together" then, "now I can bone you with this brick of 22's".

At this point we can agree to disagree.

 

[l730dc]

Mega... I see the "free market" thing come up a lot when it comes to people talking about overcharging for 22lr... I dont think anyone is trying to say that it is illegal.. or that they shouldnt be allowed to do it... I think they are just saying.. its not morally right.. its not the right thing to do... and they are aholes for doing so... isnt it the peoples right to think and say that "scalping" is bs?

 

[photoracer]

Look at it this way. The retailer is selling a brick of whatever for $90 when they used to cost us less than $30. What they are doing is cutting out the hoarders and opportunistic resellers and selling it for what the market will bear. That keeps the hoarders from wanting it so other people can get it, they just may not like the new market prices. So the choice is they sell it for $30 and we don't get any because it sells in hours or they sell it for $90 and we can still find some to buy. As long as we are willing to pay $90 then the dealers will sell for that as will the hoarders who resell on GB.

 

[Jeproks]

Look at it this way. The retailer is selling a brick of whatever for $90 when they used to cost us less than $30. What they are doing is cutting out the hoarders and opportunistic resellers and selling it for what the market will bear. That keeps the hoarders from wanting it so other people can get it, they just may not like the new market prices. So the choice is they sell it for $30 and we don't get any because it sells in hours or they sell it for $90 and we can still find some to buy. As long as we are willing to pay $90 then the dealers will sell for that as will the hoarders who resell on GB.

An individual trying to make a buck is opportunistic while a retailer selling a $30 brick for $90 is fine since they are cutting out hoarders and resellers? Last time I check, the US is the land of opportunity.

 

[drking2]

I sell it for whatever I paid for it plus shipping... Anywhere from 29 to 38 a brick. I only do it when I find it to help those who can't find it.

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[Magnumite]

Retailers have a business license and pay taxes on that profit. As photoracer said at $90 a brick at least it will be there when end users need it.

 

[Maverick0313]

I think we will be okay. I know that MSRPA had to cancel their 3P match this year due to a shortage of .22 ammo.

We were lucky enough to have some reserve from last year and donations by some of our coaches/past students for the Women On Target events.

I am hoping it will soon pass but when I see prices of $14.00 per 100 for Remington Subsonics and $150.00 per 500 of Federal HV Match, I have to wonder.

Yep...it is definately out of control. I know several folks that have 20K + rounds of .22LR.......I just don't get it......

 

[rockstarr]

If you don't like the prices,Then just don't buy the product they offer. When I see something really over priced I just laugh and say, Im glad I put the work in and got mine at decent prices, but this is damn funny because the folks that tried Wal-Mart twice and cant find any will cough up the insane amounts of money for it.

You cant blame those that are taking advantage of capitalism at its best to make a few bucks. No point in selling ammo to make 5 dollars per box. Im sure they've spent more than that in gas or shipping charges to get it just like anyone else would.


* ive never sold any ammo and mean no offense to anyone, Just making a statement*

 

[Doctor_M]

One of my project managers just brought me a brick of Aquila supermax this morning. He is moving onto his sailboat and downsizing his closets. Guess who's getting a good performance review this month :-)

 

[Docster]

Yep...it is definately out of control. I know several folks that have 20K + rounds of .22LR.......I just don't get it......

Worth repeating; notice my emphasis.

Hoard (hôrd, hōrd)
n. A hidden fund or supply stored for future use; a cache.

v. hoard·ed, hoard·ing, hoards
v.intr. To gather or accumulate a hoard.

v.tr. 1. To accumulate a hoard of.
2. To keep hidden or private.

Hoarding is not a bad thing. It's a behavior used by some during a real or perceived shortage of a desired product or commodity. The behavior is frequently employed by people smart enough to predict shortages and willing to risk the money to stockpile at the market price. That is, if/when prices return to previous levels, the hoarders are left with higher priced supplies, but if prices don't return to normal, the risk pays off. The same behavior is criticized by those who fail to do the same and are thus unable to hoard supplies during a shortage.

Every gun show that I've attended in the past 6 months has had .22LR available in any desired quantity.

 

[RosadoSM]

The moderators do what they feel they need to do. It is their site and they do police it. So by allowing flatout regular scalping activity from individuals they are condoning it.

Actually its not. They Mod the sight based on the rules and do so without any stake in it more than any other member. They were asked to be moderators based on their character and routinely get blasted when somebody gets their panties in a bunch.

Saying they condone scalping is just wrong. While there are some here who try to take advantage with ridiculous adds. Its a free market, nobody is forcing you to buy what they sell. Don't like the price... don't buy it.

 

[Jmurman]

Yep...it is definately out of control. I know several folks that have 20K + rounds of .22LR.......I just don't get it......

What is it that you don't get?

Are you blaming those folks for your lack of ammo supply?

 

[RIGGS]

If I could find 20,000 rounds of .22 I'd buy em. My stash of 700 won't last long

But I will not over pay. I'll wait.

 

[hdatontodo]

If I could find 20,000 rounds of .22 I'd buy em. My stash of 700 won't last long

But I will not over pay. I'll wait.

What are you looking to pay per round?

 

[RIGGS]

Whatever it sells for at Walmart.

 

[Kevmo]

Sooo.. does this mean some of you guys don't buy gas?

Because it used to be 99 cents.. now it's 3.xx... the gov was hoarding gas...

 

[gunup]

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[Mooseman]

Yep...it is definately out of control. I know several folks that have 20K + rounds of .22LR.......I just don't get it......

20,000 rounds is around 40 trips to the range for me or less than twenty range trips for my wife and I. I shoot nearly every week year round and two to four range trips per week when the weather is nice. You can do the math. 20,000 rounds won't get me through the year.

 

[protegeV]

20,000 rounds is around 40 trips to the range for me or less than twenty range trips for my wife and I. I shoot nearly every week year round and two to four range trips per week when the weather is nice. You can do the math. 20,000 rounds won't get me through the year.

mother of god thats a lot of shooting. im lucky if I can go once a month. I'll spend an hour there and not go through 250 rounds