When the Music Stops: America's Cities Exploding in Violence

[BradMacc82]

Death before Brokeback mountain!

I'll die with my "dignity" uncompromised thank you.


I feed you harrow points from my Grock... -

 

[Lou45]

OMG.. Asians on rooftops with shotguns and rifles.

Get off my rawn you dum plick!
I feed you harrow points from my grock.
You wanna piece of me? You wanna see hell? Lemme DRIVE....

How could you do it????? Making fun of our Oriental neighbors???? Without including, "FA-RA-RA-RA-RAAAAAAAAA, RA-RA-RA-RAAAAAAAAAAA".

 

[SCARCQB]

How could you do it????? Making fun of our Oriental neighbors???? Without including, "FA-RA-RA-RA-RAAAAAAAAA, RA-RA-RA-RAAAAAAAAAAA".

I can afford to make fun of Asians because I am Asian.. at least the last time the census bureau checked.

 

[MEGALUG]

This ^^^

Just a little FYI: When you see them stealing cell phones, big screen tv's, computers, and other expensive electronic gadgetry, somehow I don't get the impression that they're trying to feed themselves and/or their families. Catch my drift???

Eruby looks like Megalug came through. BTW, haven't heard much from ya' Megalug since our little episode with Miss Stinky RottenCrotch.

Hey Lou, been real busy with my other jobs. You have any other run in's?

 

[EL1227]

I know ... it's Alex Jones, but ...

What a sorry state of political affairs when the 'entitlement society' threatens violence and the 'enabler government' does nothing to lessen the threat, but in fact encourages it.

New Threats to Riot if Obama Loses Election

Obama Supporters Threaten To Kill Romney If He Wins Election

There's no telling how far these threats would go and how much of our day-to-day lives they would affect if they followed through with them, but one needs to question why it's being ignored by either party. I can venture guesses; like Obama secretly hopes that it does happen so he can use it as an excuse for further erosion of our freedoms. And Mitt just hopes that it's all bluster and goes away because calling for strong measures against it or even calmer voices will be fuel for the left.

Bottom line ... The Boy Scout Motto

 

[browning guy]

We need two pickup trucks with four shooters each. You and Al get the crew served weapons.

have pick up, will travel!

 

[EL1227]

Ann Coulter Weighs in ...

MEDIAite via TownHall.com -
Ann Coulter on Potential for Riots Post-Election

 

[Lou45]

Eruby looks like Megalug came through. BTW, haven't heard much from ya' Megalug since our little episode with Miss Stinky RottenCrotch.

Hey Lou, been real busy with my other jobs. You have any other run in's?

No more Miss Stinky Rottencrotch.............. though the promoter (Appalachain) may threaten us wih her again.

I can afford to make fun of Asians because I am Asian.. at least the last time the census bureau checked.

Between you, lx1x, and fps, it's not hard to keep up with.

 

[Lou45]

Back to subject:

ALOT of LE Agencies were on alert and staffed up for post election day back in 2008 if Bozo lost.

 

[INMY01TA]

Bring it on.

 

[SCARCQB]

I think it is time to file a vacation request for election week. I do not want to be in the Middle of SE DC or Baltimore when possible SHTF happens.

The PS 90 will be my truck gun for a while.

 

[Bohlieve410]

When/if SHTF, I'm staying right in my little redneck town. We've got hunting grounds, water supply but no Taco Bell. If any outsiders want in during crisis they better be packing burritos and fresco tacos.

 

[Minuteman]

Hope everyone is sitting tight.

Archie Bunker has a suggested solution:

 

[smokey]

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1390482241717899266?s=19
Not sure why, but feel like this belongs in here. Antifa seems to be emboldened now to be fully armed up and it's only a matter of time before a mag dump kicks of skirmishes. At the same time, there's talks of the economy stalling(potentially crashing), and all those people that haven't paid rent but can't be kicked out may suddenly get the boot.


I'll also toss this in here as something to ponder. Early in the conversation, they talk about the role the he's played in Europe and the Christians played in the ottoman empire. Basically you had an elite ruling class, a middle class population that did all the functional work, and a poor class. The elites basically deflected blame from the poor to the middle managers(Jews/Armenians). It seems like there's definitely sparks of this ideology in urban centers.

I'm not sure how this country can heal the divide between urban parts of the country and suburban/rural....especially as urban centers now begin to take over with political representation.

 

[smokey]

https://www.americanpartisan.org/20...-how-americas-cities-may-explode-in-violence/

Here's the new site for bracken's article. WRS got taken down

(I wrote this essay in 2012 for Western Rifle Shooters Association, where it quickly racked up over 400 replies and comments. I’m reposting it here in American Partisan on May 31, 2020, during the George Floyd riots, without revision.)

In response to recent articles in mainstream military journals discussing the use of the U.S. Army to quell insurrections on American soil, I offer an alternate vision of the future. Instead of a small town in the South as the flash point, picture instead a score of U.S. cities in the thrall of riots greater than those experienced in Los Angeles in 1965 (Watts), multiple cities in 1968 (MLK assassination), and Los Angeles again in 1992 (Rodney King). New Yorkers can imagine the 1977 blackout looting or the 1991 Crown Heights disturbance. In fact, the proximate spark of the next round of major riots in America could be any from a long list cribbed from our history.

We have seen them all before, and we shall see them all again as history rhymes along regardless of the century or the generation of humankind nominally in control of events. But the next time we are visited by widespread, large-scale urban riots, a dangerous new escalation may be triggered by a fresh vulnerability: It’s estimated that the average American home has less than two weeks of food on hand. In poor minority areas, it may be much less. What if a cascading economic crisis, even a temporary one, leads to millions of EBT (electronic benefit transfer) cards flashing nothing but ERROR? This could also be the result of deliberate sabotage by hackers, or other technical system failures. Alternatively, the government might pump endless digits into the cards in a hopeless attempt to outpace future hyperinflation. The government can order the supermarkets to honor the cards, and it can even set price controls, but history’s verdict is clear: If suppliers are paid only with worthless scrip or blinking digits, the food will stop.

STEP ONE: FLASH MOB LOOTING

In my scenario, the initial riots begin spontaneously across affected urban areas, as SNAP (supplemental nutrition assistance program) and other government welfare recipients learn that their EBT cards no longer function. This sudden revelation will cause widespread anger, which will quickly lead to the flash-mob looting of local supermarkets and other businesses. The media will initially portray these “food riots” as at least partly justifiable. Sadly, millions of Americans have been made largely, or even entirely, dependent on government wealth transfer payments to put food on their tables.

A new social contract has been created, where bread and circuses buy a measure of peace in our minority-populated urban zones. In the era of ubiquitous big-screen cable television, the internet and smart phones, the circus part of the equation is never in doubt as long as the electricity flows. But the bread is highly problematic. Food must be delivered the old-fashioned way: physically. Any disruption in the normal functioning of the EBT system will lead to food riots with a speed that is astonishing. This will inevitably happen when our unsustainable, debt-fueled binge party finally stops, and the music is over. Now that the delivery of free or heavily subsidized food is perceived by tens of millions of Americans to be a basic human right, the cutoff of “their” food money will cause an immediate explosion of rage. When the hunger begins to bite, supermarkets, shops and restaurants will be looted, and initially the media will not condemn the looting. Unfortunately, this initial violence will only be the start of a dangerous escalation.

The ransacked supermarkets, convenience stores, ATMs and gas stations will not be restocked during this period due to the precarious security situation. A single truck loaded with food or gasoline would be perceived to be a Fort Knox on wheels and subject to immediate attack unless heavily protected by powerfully armed security forces, but such forces will not be available during this chaotic period. Under those conditions, resupply to the urban areas cannot and will not take place. The downward spiral of social and economic dysfunction will therefore both accelerate and spread from city to city. These delays, in turn, will lead to more riots with the constant underlying demand that hungry people be fed, one way or another.

Catch-22, anyone? When these demands do not bring the desired outcome, the participants will ratchet up the violence, hoping to force action by the feckless state and national governments.

The “food riots” will be a grass-roots movement of the moment born out of hunger and desperation. It will not be dependent upon leaders or an underlying organization, although they could certainly add to the sauce. Existing cell phone technology provides all the organization a flash mob needs. Most of the mobs will consist of minority urban youths, termed MUYs in the rest of this essay. Which minority doesn’t matter; each urban locale will come with its own unique multi-ethnic dynamic.

Some locales will divide upon religious or political lines, but they will not be the dominant factors contributing to conflict. In the American context, the divisions will primarily have an ethnic or racial context, largely because that makes it easy to sort out the sides at a safe distance. No need to check religious or political affiliation at a hundred yards when The Other is of a different color.

We Americans are all about doing things the easy way, so, sadly, visible racial and ethnic features will form the predominant lines of division.

Would that it were not so, but reality is reality, even when it’s is a bitch.

Especially then.

NEXT STEP: FLASH MOB RIOTS

In order to highlight their grievances and escalate their demands for an immediate resumption of government benefits, the MUY flash mobs will next move their activities to the borders of their ethnic enclaves. They will concentrate on major intersections and highway interchanges where non-MUY suburban commuters must make daily passage to and from what forms of employment still exist. People making a living will still be using those roads to get to where they earn their daily bread.

The results of these clashes will frequently resemble the intersection of Florence and Normandie during the Rodney King riots in 1992, where Reginald Denny was pulled out of his truck’s cab and beaten nearly to death with a cinder block. If you don’t remember it, watch it on Youtube. Then imagine that scene with the mob-making accelerant of texting and other social media technology added to stoke the fires. Instead of a few dozen thugs terrorizing the ambushed intersections, in minutes there will be hundreds.

Rioters will throw debris such as shopping carts and trash cans into the intersection, causing the more timid drivers to pause. The mobs will swarm the lines of trapped cars once they have stopped. Traffic will be forced into gridlock for blocks in all directions. Drivers and passengers of the wrong ethnic persuasions will be pulled from their vehicles to be beaten, robbed, and in some cases raped and/or killed. It will be hyper-violent and overtly racial mob behavior, on a massive and undeniable basis.

Some of those trapped in their cars will try to drive out of the area, inevitably knocking down MUY pedestrians and being trapped by even more outraged MUYs. The commuters will be dragged out of their cars and kicked or beaten to death. Other suburban commuters will try to shoot their way out of the lines of stopped cars, and they will meet the same grim fate once they run out of bullets and room to escape.

The mob will be armed with everything from knives, clubs and pistols to AK-47s. A bloodbath will result. These unlucky drivers and their passengers will suffer horribly, and some of their deaths will be captured on traffic web cameras. Later, these terrible scenes will be released or leaked by sympathetic government insiders and shown by the alternative media, which continue to expand as the traditional media become increasingly irrelevant.

Implausible, you insist?

This grim tableau is my analysis of age-old human behavior patterns, adding flash mobs and 2012 levels of racial anger to the old recipe. Early-teenage MUYs today are frequently playing “The Knockout Game” on full bellies, just for kicks, and proudly uploading the videos. They and their older peers can be expected to do far worse when hunger and the fear of starvation enter their physical, mental, and emotional equations. The blame for their hunger will be turned outward against the greater society, and will be vented at first hand against any non-MUY who falls into their grasp while they are in the thrall of mob hysteria. These episodes of mass psychology we will refer to as “flash mob riots”, “wilding”, or some other new name.

THE OFFICIAL POLICE RESPONSE TO FLASH MOB RIOTS

To gear up for even a single “Florence and Normandie on steroids” flash mob street riot, city police departments will require an hour or longer to stage their SWAT teams and riot squads in position to react. Ordinary patrol cars in small numbers will not venture anywhere near such roiling masses of hysterical rioters, not even to perform rescues. Those citizens trapped in their cars cannot expect timely assistance from local or state authorities.

Even in the first days of widespread riots, when the police forces are well rested, it might take several hours to mount a response sufficient to quell the disturbance and restore order to even one major street intersection riot. In the meantime, scores of innocent commuters will have been attacked, with many of them injured or killed and left at the scene. It will be a law enforcement nightmare to quell the disturbance, mop up lingering rioters, restore security, and bring medical attention to the living and get medical examiners to the dead. And each jurisdiction will face potentially dozens of such scenes, thanks to the ability for MUYs to cross-communicate at will using their wireless devices.

The far more difficult challenge for the police is that by the time they are suited in riot gear, armed and geared up to sweep the intersection, it will probably be empty of rioters. The police, with their major riot squad reaction times measured in hours, will be fighting flash mobs that materialize, cause mayhem, and evaporate in only fractions of hours. This rapid cycle time is a clear lesson taken from massive riots by immigrant French Muslims in their own religious enclaves.

The American flash mob riot will exist almost entirely inside the law enforcement OODA (observe, orient, decide, act) loop. In other words, the rioters will have a much quicker reaction time than the police. Until fairly recently, superior police communications meant that they could use their radio networks as a force multiplier. With their networking advantage and cohesive reactions both within a department and among cooperating local agencies, police could act as shepherds guiding or dispersing a wayward stampeding flock.

Today, the mob has the greater advantage, immediately spreading word of every police preparation by text and Tweet, even in advance of the police movement. Attempts by the authorities to stop the flash mobs by blocking and jamming wireless transmissions will have limited success.

It is at this point that the situation spirals out of control.

The enraged mobs in urban America will soon recognize that their spontaneous street riots cannot be stopped by the police, and then they will grow truly fearsome. For the police, it will be a losing game of Whack-a-Mole, with riots breaking out and dispersing at a speed they cannot hope to match. The violence will spread to previously unaffected cities as an awareness of law enforcement impotence is spread by television and social media. After a few days, the police forces will be exhausted and demoralized. As the violence intensifies and spreads, and in the absence of any viable security arrangements, supermarkets and other stores will not be restocked, leaving the MUYs even more desperate and angry than before. The increasing desperation born of worsening hunger will refuel the escalating spiral of violence.

Nor will violent conflict be only between the inhabitants of the urban areas and the suburbs. The international record of conflict in tri-ethnic cities is grim, making the old bi-racial dichotomy formerly seen in America seem stable by comparison. In tri-ethnic cities the perceived balance of power is constantly shifting, with each side in turn feeling outnumbered and outmuscled. Temporary truces, betrayals and new alliances follow in rapid succession, removing any lingering sense of social cohesion.

The former Yugoslavia, with its Catholic, Orthodox and Muslim divisions, comes starkly to mind. The Lebanese Civil War between the Christians, Sunnis, Shiites and Druze raged across Beirut (at one time known as “The Paris of the Middle East”) for fifteen brutal years. Once a city turns on itself and becomes a runaway engine of self-destruction, it can be difficult to impossible to switch off the process and return to normal pre-conflict life. It’s not inconceivable that the United States could produce a dozen Sarajevos or Beiruts, primarily across racial instead of religious divides.

Vehicle traffic by non-minority suburban commuters through adjoining minority areas will virtually halt, wrecking what is left of the local economy. Businesses will not open because employees will not be able to travel to work safely. Businesses in minority areas, needless to say, will be looted. “Gentrified” enclaves of affluent suburbanites within or near the urban zones will suffer repeated attacks, until their inhabitants flee.

Radically disaffected minorities will hold critical infrastructure corridors through their areas hostage against the greater society. Highways, railroad tracks, pipe and power lines will all be under constant threat, or may be cut in planned or unplanned acts of raging against “the system.” As long as security in the urban areas cannot be restored, these corridors will be under threat. Even airports will not be immune. Many of them have been absorbed into urban areas, and aircraft will come under sporadic fire while taking off and landing.

In the absence of fresh targets of value blundering into their areas, and still out of food, MUYs will begin to forage beyond their desolated home neighborhoods and into suburban borderlands. “Safe” supermarkets and other stores will be robbed in brazen commando-like gang attacks. Carjackings and home invasions will proliferate madly. As I have discussed in my 2010 essay “The Civil War Two Cube,” so-called “transitional” and mixed-ethnic areas will suffer the worst violence. These neighborhoods will become utterly chaotic killing zones, with little or no help coming from the overstretched police, who will be trying to rest up for their next shift on riot squad duty, if they have not already deserted their posts to take care of their own families.

 

[Stoveman]

I think this thread is the hands down winner for most posts by banned and now deceased members.

 

[eruby]

I think this thread is the hands down winner for most posts by banned and now deceased members.

LOLOL Awesome

Henceforth on MDS, you will also be known as Monk.


And what the hell became of Half-cocked?

 

[gtodave]

Excellent thread bump. It has stood the test of time for sure.

 

[Threeband]

...


And what the hell became of Half-cocked?

He went off...




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Buried among the comments to the LA Riots video to which Smokey linked on page one of this thread is some interesting background on the fabled Rooftop Koreans. This is inside info on the Rooftop Koreans which should not be lost:

marchveris
3 years ago (edited)

I'm Korean-American who lives in Los Angeles. Talked to couple guys who were guarding the roof top and other posts and you'll be surprised because a lot of them were normal civilians. Some shop owners, grocery store clerks, chef, cooks, taxi driver, etc just everyday people. Most of them were immigrants and some were international students. The older men had more military experience so they took the leadership role. The older generation experienced the Korean War and Vietnam War (South Korea was the only US ally to aid Vietnam War with soldiers). The young guys followed their order. Most, if not all, men were veterans because they had gone to mandatory military service at South Korea. These dudes were trained soldiers that weren't going to be ****ed with.

Radio Korea, the Korean-American radio station, worked as a command camp and they communicated through radio and walkie talkies to alert each other for patrols and support. There was a guy who owned a jewelry store who also happened to own a gun store so he called for help and provided firearms. But because of lack of firearm, they made fake guns or used toy bb guns and pretended like it was real showing it on camera to scare away the looters.

I asked what was their protocol if they see a looter and surprisingly, it wasn't like they were trying to kill them. These men actually tried not to kill them and they said even though they could have shot em, they tried to aim for air or around not trying to cause casualty unless it was necessary.

Again, they were armed and guarding the shops themselves because LAPD and other securities gave up on Koreatown. They were at Rodeo, Hollywood, the rich areas. LAPD actually came to confiscate their guns at one point arresting the Koreans for guarding neighbors shops. They came to get the guns and lot of guys who were on roof gave them what they had, BB guns.
--- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCiC6qTtjs