VICTORY IN PALMER!!!!

[swinokur]

Based on prior postings it appears that the judge might not be able to directly compel the DC legislature to pass shall issue but I see no reason he could not put the injunction back in place until such time as he was satisfied that the new law complied with his Palmer-based ruling. So they can pass may issue, but then DC becomes constitutional carry again.

And then DC appeals to the circuit, who then grants another stay until the case is heard.

And so it goes..

 

[T'Challa]

Or any other proper reason?

The suitable person clause will be interesting.. if scotus is waiting for a district case .. they may get one...

Scotus want no parts of a 2nd amendment case.

 

[Brooklyn]

Scotus want no parts of a 2nd amendment case.

With a white plaintiff... here is how it will work... it will be a black that gets us universal carry.... one day..

 

[eruby]

With a white plaintiff... here is how it will work... it will be a back that gets us universal carry.... one day..

Is this vernacular for Mexican-American/Hispanic?

 

[BigSteve57]

DC wants to continue the same racist Jim Crowe laws to keep minorities from owning/possessing a firearm for self defense or protecting their families!

I have often wondered if that is one way to frame the issue.
I'd hate to win THAT way because I would want to win based on what's clearly written in the 2nd amendment.

But a win would be a win.

 

[Inigoes]

I have often wondered if that is one way to frame the issue.
I'd hate to win THAT way because I would want to win based on what's clearly written in the 2nd amendment.

But a win would be a win.

It is true nonetheless

DC wants to control it's fiefdom. They (the elected officials) are unwilling to trust the people who vote for them.

 

[Brooklyn]

Is this vernacular for Mexican-American/Hispanic?

Opps.

 

[HauptsAriba]

Based on prior postings it appears that the judge might not be able to directly compel the DC legislature to pass shall issue but I see no reason he could not put the injunction back in place until such time as he was satisfied that the new law complied with his Palmer-based ruling. So they can pass may issue, but then DC becomes constitutional carry again.

I love the ideas of Constitutional carry in DC, mainly because it makes all of the libs shit their pants.

The FU effect is Fing priceless....

 

[krucam]

Today D.C. filed their Reply Brief in favor of their Motion for Reconsideration. This is in response to SAF's Response Brief.

Our motion isn't Frivolous. The District Court didn't follow controlling Court rulings (CADC/SCOTUS). Means End Scrutiny should be utilized, saying Heller II (under CADC) mandates the 2-A 2-Step under Intermediate Scrutiny. Oyyy...

Their whole brief circles around "In the Home", that brave new world outside of that not being legally substantiated in the Courts. I suggest they wrap that argument around the word "Bear" in the Second Amendment and the established definition, even in a controlling Court (SCOTUS, Ginsburg's definition).

...to wear, bear, or carry … upon the person or in the clothing or in a pocket, for the purpose … of being armed and ready for offensive or defensive action in a case of conflict with another person.

They also gloss over CADC's opinion in Heller I (nee Parker v. DC), which WOULD be controlling if they wanted to read it.

The term “bear arms,” when viewed in isolation,
might be thought ambiguous; it could have a military cast. But
since “the people” and “keep” have obvious individual and
private meanings, we think those words resolve any supposed
ambiguity in the term “bear arms.”

and

To summarize, we conclude that the Second Amendment
protects an individual right to keep and bear arms.

 

[Brooklyn]

They are consistent....

Wonder how may ways the court can say we find otherwise and the proper remedy is appeal...

 

[fidelity]

The Secret Service putatively told a DC Council official that they are uneasy about citizens carrying in DC ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...3ce1ae-425a-11e4-9a15-137aa0153527_story.html

Sounds like predictable, manipulative political b.s. (in that private concerns about implementation from someone unnamed in the SS are being leaked and twisted after the recent WH fence jumper).

 

[Mr H]

Interesting.......

Another data point for something unrelated...

But, what it does potentially do is bolster the "Sensitive Places" arguments.

 

[Brooklyn]

No surprise...

SS would ban all guns in non SS ( including police if they could)

You know if we could just force the president to never the WH that would make him safer too..

 

[Brooklyn]

Interesting.......

Another data point for something unrelated...

But, what it does potentially do is bolster the "Sensitive Places" arguments.

No the court rejected that already.. its just noise.

It does suggest that the SS is not up to the task of protecting the president rember that gut that opened up full auto on the WH a few years back.. taken down by the public....you know the ones we can't trust with guns... as aposed to full auto guy.... yup with out ccw we might have non criminals with guns....oh my what will we do...

 

[Mr H]

No the court rejected that already.. its just noise.

IMO, this is only true if the Court is truly insulated from political winds.

It does suggest that the SS is not up to the task of protecting the president rember that gut that opened up full auto on the WH a few years back.. taken down by the public....you know the ones we can't trust with guns... as aposed to full auto guy.... yup with out ccw we might have non criminals with guns....oh my what will we do...

You're heading somewhere I was trying not to mention yet. There have been several things which have come out the past couple weeks that are starting to smell funny.

 

[Brooklyn]

Its not the court they are speaking to its CNN..

To hold that all of Dc is a sensitive place and thus allow a ban would make it reasonable to suspend ccw in any state potus visits.

Frankly that would be just what we need to get the con con started.

Scotus has clearly signaled that's a non starter. They know it. This is aimed at the chattering class. Not the court..

Its good... its so out there scotus can ignore it...

 

[john_bud]

. There have been several things which have come out the past couple weeks that are starting to smell funny.

You down wind of DC?

 

[swinokur]

I'm 5 miles north and it still stinks.

 

[ryan_j]

News report said one of the gate crashers had a ton of ammo in his car. Hmmmm

 

[swinokur]

over 800 rounds supposedly. If his car was parked in DC, they'll toss on a few added charges for that.