traffic stop leads to arrest

[Engine4]

It's a little hard to "hide" firearms in a Toyota Tundra.

For want of a blanket he loses all his firearms....

 

[Blackstar65]

If it he wins he will get his guns back. MSP will send them to the FFL of his choice in his home state Or use the state police in that jurisdiction.

 

[Name Taken]

There are several questions including how did they know he was prohibited. I can only think of one or two ways you would know WITHOUT prolonging a stop which would bring in some other legal issues.

For all we know he might have been asked if he's been convicted of any crimes before and answered which would lead to probable cause.

The article doesn't provide enough information. I can make ways that this is a "good" case and a "bad" case....without the information who knows.

 

[Blackstar65]

That's is easy a criminal history check from barrack ncic terminal would provide that information.

 

[Name Taken]

That's is easy a criminal history check from barrack ncic terminal would provide that information.

I would question if that is routine on every stop. If not did it prolong the stop? If so what reasonable suspicion did the officer have for the continued detention. Does knowledge of a firearm which appeared to have been transported legally justify any further investigation?

Now if the guy gave a bunch of his information it may be reasonable to check and prolong the detention. If the handguns weren't being carried legally it's not an issue then either.

Like I said...we can sit here and make up ways it would be legal or illegal....but the article certainly doesn't provide that information.

 

[fabsroman]

If it he wins he will get his guns back. MSP will send them to the FFL of his choice in his home state Or use the state police in that jurisdiction.

You must have missed this thread:

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=172695

Seems as though law enforcement doesn't just give back the firearms all that easily.

I had a client go through this. He worked out a plea deal where the charges against him were dropped in PG County in return for community service, and the firearms weren't just simply returned to him by PG County.

 

[zoostation]

Nothing in case search on him.

It's a little hard to "hide" firearms in a Toyota Tundra.

Looks like the paper may have misspelled it. Last name is actually Siek according to courts.

 

[dontpanic]

Nothing in case search on him.

It's a little hard to "hide" firearms in a Toyota Tundra.

I can easily fit 4 long guns under my back seat. I can also easily fit 10 handguns in my center console.

Without even trying hard.

 

[redeemed.man]

I can easily fit 4 long guns under my back seat. I can also easily fit 10 handguns in my center console.

Without even trying hard.

What's your vehicle? I like the sound of that.

 

[adit]

Looks like the paper may have misspelled it. Last name is actually Siek according to courts.

Yes it is. Pulled over 17 days before he turns 30.

He is in the Navy.

Still a crapshoot on whether it was SB281 or a juvie record.

Court case is scheduled for 5/26/15 in Salisbury.

 

[DaemonAssassin]

Either way he better use FOPA as a defense against this BS.

 

[Armadillofz1]

Reading this does not make me comfortable about visiting maryland this summer with my side arm.

 

[Pinecone]

Nothing in case search on him.

It's a little hard to "hide" firearms in a Toyota Tundra.

In that case FOPA requires ammunition or firearm in a locked case.

 

[press1280]

Would this be one of those oddball occurrences where he's legal federally, and in NH and VA but would be prohibited in MD?

Will have to watch this one. We know the media typically doesn't know this stuff very well and totally botches it.

 

[Blacksmith101]

Another report not much additional information.
http://www.wmdt.com/news/more-local...5-guns-during-Salisbury-traffic-stop/32340660

 

[Biggfoot44]

Not that we yet have sufficient data on this , but let's go hypothetical and devil's advocate :

Even if someone WAS Md specific prohibitesd , but not prohibited Federally or in the origionating and destination states, FOPA on its face protects that.

 

[swinokur]

As Pinecone noted, if he is going to use FOPA as an affirmative defense, either the guns or the ammo had to be in a locked case. If neither was, he isn't transporting in accordance with FOPA and that defense can't be raised.

Talking on his phone? idiot.

IANAL

 

[john_bud]

For want of a blanket he loses all his firearms....

Did the cop see "guns" as in the real steel, or the gun CASES? I know of few people transporting guns uncased.

Also, wouldn't "hiding" them violate concealed carry?

 

[swinokur]

No concealed means on your person, not in a vehicle.

 

[abean4187]

Shame, guy made the mistake of thinking that the second amendment exists in Maryland. Should have went around this hell hole to get to his final destination.