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  • smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
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    Sotomayor and brown-jackson are wildly outclassed intellectually by alito. It's fun hearing Alito rapping strategically back and forth with Mitchell. He sets up a question to promt a response three arguments away.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,538
    So all of a sudden liberals are originalists?
    It's like choosing which test to use for things like the 2a. Text/history/tradition (strict scrutiny), intermediate scrutiny, rational basis...etc. justices just choose which they feel like using to get what they want.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
    MDS Supporter
    Jul 22, 2008
    14,725
    Glen Burnie
    I'm still trying to figure out how the events of January 6th actually qualify as an attempted insurrection, or how Trump was directly involved with it.
     

    Rickman

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    Dec 31, 2012
    10,605
    Port Deposit, MD
    I'm still waiting for the statement of fact that not only has Trunp not been convicted of insurrection, but has not even been charged with insurrection.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,538
    I'm still trying to figure out how the events of January 6th actually qualify as an attempted insurrection, or how Trump was directly involved with it.
    Luckily that's not even relevant to this because trump isn't "an officer" and isn't able to be removed from a national ballot in the way he was.

    Thomas is obliterating the current anti-trump witness.
     

    trickg

    Guns 'n Drums
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    Jul 22, 2008
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    Luckily that's not even relevant to this because trump isn't "an officer" and isn't able to be removed from a national ballot in the way he was.

    Thomas is obliterating the current anti-trump witness.
    That guy even looks like an @$$hole. The justices are doing a pretty good job of poking holes in his argument.
     

    Triggerfinger

    States Rights!
    Sep 1, 2012
    1,423
    Richlands, North Carolina
    It seems to me that if Trump is barred from being on the ballot based, not on having been duly convicted in court of insurrection, but on feelings and political motivation, then in the future this could lead to any candidate being removed from the ballots for whatever reason by the individual states.
     

    Boats

    Broken Member
    Mar 13, 2012
    4,123
    Howeird County
    I'm still trying to figure out how the events of January 6th actually qualify as an attempted insurrection, or how Trump was directly involved with it.

    Same.

    I see it more as the landlords (the people) conducting a surprise inspection of their property (almost any government location) when trust in the renter (politicians) has eroded.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,538
    I find it interesting that even Kagan is poking holes in the state's argument.
    She's not. Kagan seems to be one of the smart ones. She's purposely playing devils advocate in a way for the witness to be redirected away from a weak argument.
     

    Boats

    Broken Member
    Mar 13, 2012
    4,123
    Howeird County
    It seems to me that if Trump is barred from being on the ballot based, not on having been duly convicted in court of insurrection, but on feelings and political motivation, then in the future this could lead to any candidate being removed from the ballots for whatever reason by the individual states.

    yep.

    If the supreme court upholds this, the fallout could be interesting.
     

    brianns

    Ultimate Member
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    Dec 29, 2015
    3,691
    Montgomery County
    It seems to me that if Trump is barred from being on the ballot based, not on having been duly convicted in court of insurrection, but on feelings and political motivation, then in the future this could lead to any candidate being removed from the ballots for whatever reason by the individual states.
    It's a total breakdown in our law and order. Ushers in more of a propensity to just follow whatever and not uphold the laws because you don't like them. It's like the NASDAP and Brownshirts. I think we call them lame stream media, weaponized justice system and antifa.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,538
    The other interesting argument from Mitchell is that even if guilty, there's nothing about RUNNING for office, only HOLDING office. In specific, between now and when trump could hold office, it's possible he could be completely acquitted. So in the same way a 34 year old can run for office if 35 by the time he/she swears in, trump can run for office now with the question on whether he can or can't HOLD office being unresolved.
     

    smokey

    2A TEACHER
    Jan 31, 2008
    31,538
    yep.

    If the supreme court upholds this, the fallout could be interesting.
    I don't know why republican AGs aren't waging lawfare against biden, and all democrat candidates, in the same way they're going after trump. It's not like there's a shortage of democrats urging blm/antifa to wage political violence on the record.
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