The SCOTUS live broadcasting of Trump vs Colorado the appeals from CO supreme court saying he is not eligible to run LIVE

[smokey]

Alito is essentially tossing out the possibility of if biden could be a traitor and yanked from office for giving a country like Iran aid. Awesome.

 

[gtodave]

ZING

 

[smokey]

The other interesting argument from Mitchell is that even if guilty, there's nothing about RUNNING for office, only HOLDING office. In specific, between now and when trump could hold office, it's possible he could be completely acquitted. So in the same way a 34 year old can run for office if 35 by the time he/she swears in, trump can run for office now with the question on whether he can or can't HOLD office being unresolved.

Here is Mitchell schooling brown-jackson on this

 

[smokey]

Gorsuch just smoked this dude with his own words about process.

 

[smokey]

She's not. Kagan seems to be one of the smart ones. She's purposely playing devils advocate in a way for the witness to be redirected away from a weak argument.

 

[MaxVO2]

****Brutal. Jason Murray the attorney is easily outmatched intellectually and is easily smacked down with his own argument. He knows his argument is weak and Gorsuch is just twisting the knife as he Murray just flails about hoping for the bell to lunch time rings soon... It will be interesting to see how the MSM spins this, and they will.

Jason Murray is no doubt an excellent attorney but is dealing from a very weak hand of cards and he knows it. The Supreme Court isn't some small town country courthouse and has some very very smart people on it.

 

[T-Man]

Sounded to me like Colorado lost their argument with ALL of SCOTUS.

Perhaps I am naive, but I would be greatly disappointed if this was untrue. As a lawyer, Colorado’s argument is so bad and politically motivate AND the impact of this is so huge, I cannot imagine any of the many varieties of judges I have dealt with over the years upholding the decision. It is wrong in so many levels and it torpedoes rule of law at the same time - no Supreme wants to be responsible for that.

Then again, I would have said that the Constitutional issue of due process is so fundamental that no state court would
Try to get away with it - so what do I know?

I still think this whole thing was just a scam run by the DNC to inflame their base against Trump and the Supreme Court (possibly set up packing) and force them to ignore Biden’s doddering.

 

[smokey]

Oh look, a leftist insurrection disrupting a government process...

 

[smokey]

I'm still trying to figure out how the events of January 6th actually qualify as an attempted insurrection, or how Trump was directly involved with it.

 

[That guy Jeff]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think the SC allowed recordings and such. What changed?

 

[smokey]

Sotomayor and brown-jackson are wildly outclassed intellectually by alito. It's fun hearing Alito rapping strategically back and forth with Mitchell. He sets up a question to promt a response three arguments away.

Brown Jackson is an idiot.

 

[T-Man]

Wow, that guy just got absolutely smoked by Gorsuch. So counsel, your argument amounts to supporting anarchy in the government based on one person’s ability to treat the president as disqualified whenever they feel like it - how stupid is that? And don’t avoid the question.

 

[T-Man]

Brown Jackson is an idiot.

Aw, man, that one just makes me mad. It seems like she took an “even if” argument- assuming for the purpose of argument that a fact is true - and tried to spin it as Trump’s team admitting it is true. That is just awful, if the case.

With cases often needing many elements to be fulfilled to meet a standard, those sort of arguments are made all the time. It is a very good argument in this case. Unless Trumps team totally messed up their brief, it is hard to understand how she could honestly make such an error.

Edit - I am going to stop listening to these now. If I don’t, I have a feeling I will end up curled up in a corner silently weeping for our Republic for the rest of the day.

 

[RFBfromDE]

It's a shame his reply was edited out.

 

[mpollan1]

Can’t be found guilty unless tried and convicted. Unless you are a DimoCrap!

It's a two pronged approach. If they can't find him guilty and convict in a court of "law", they will pull out all stops to find him guilty and convict him in the court of public opinion. They are terrified of him going scorched earth upon being elected.

 

[trickg]

It's a two pronged approach. If they can't find him guilty and convict in a court of "law", they will pull out all stops to find him guilty and convict him in the court of public opinion. They are terrified of him going scorched earth upon being elected.

I think more than anything they are afraid of his judicial appointments. There's more power there than in almost anything else, and I think that's why they pulled out all the stops to cheat the system to insure that he didn't get a 2nd consecutive term. The impact he'd have had on the US courts would have ushered in an era of conservative judgements that would have lasted a generation, and he'd have completely changed the balance of the SCOTUS.

 

[Combloc]

You may well be right. My number one thought when I voted for him was the Supreme Court. I'm retiring during the next presidency and I'd like to be able to enjoy myself. Trump at the helm would be a great way to start.

 

[That guy Jeff]

I think more than anything they are afraid of his judicial appointments. There's more power there than in almost anything else, and I think that's why they pulled out all the stops to cheat the system to insure that he didn't get a 2nd consecutive term. The impact he'd have had on the US courts would have ushered in an era of conservative judgements that would have lasted a generation, and he'd have completely changed the balance of the SCOTUS.

This right here is something I see Liberals and Leftists talk about a lot. His picks for the Supreme Court have and will shape the future of the country for potentially decades. The smart Liberals/Leftists recognize this and talk about it, the dumb ones focus on shit like him ordering McDonalds for sports teams and smelling bad.

 

[mpollan1]

I'll buy that @trickg . If nothing else, the left is the master of the long game. That said, Barrett has been a disappointment with her decisions.

 

[Afrikeber]

This right here is something I see Liberals and Leftists talk about a lot. His picks for the Supreme Court have and will shape the future of the country for potentially decades. The smart Liberals/Leftists recognize this and talk about it, the dumb ones focus on shit like him ordering McDonalds for sports teams and smelling bad.

Just hope they live long enough to settle these 2A attacks once in for all and before the perish.