TAVOR- a quick review

[SCARCQB]

You bought the wrong rifle?


They will when folded up...


M21 and M5 are only $500.

Wrong rifle? Always blame the shooter for design shortfalls

Maybe, that is why IWI came up with the X95.

 

[mrozowjj]

I remember this segment of Future Weapons from several years ago.

One thing that I notice is the optic used by the IDF is a MARS red dot. I checked out availability and pricing and they run $950.00+ and are restricted to LE and military sales. I found a few on the civilian market but spending that kind of money on what may turn out to be an AirSoft knock off isn't for me.

I thought the M21 replaced the MARS?

That and the MOR
http://www.meprolight.com/?catid={2...itemid={9A01504E-248A-4E6A-A249-E0E47A9B343A}

 

[Mdeng]

I thought the M21 replaced the MARS?

That and the MOR
http://www.meprolight.com/?catid={2...itemid={9A01504E-248A-4E6A-A249-E0E47A9B343A}

It may have. That segment is several years old.

 

[mrozowjj]

Found a link.
http://www.thebangswitch.com/meprolight-mor-reflex-sight/
IDF didn't like the MARS sot hey stopped buying it and will be replacing it with the MOR. That's why it's going to be a bitch to find one.

So if you want to stick with proper IDF gear get an M21 $480 or a MOR $1200

 

[huesmann]

Can one of you fellas who actually received the official Tavor mag with the rifle (mine was removed due to the MD 20-round limit) take a pic of the back of the feed lips? Are the official Tavor mags square-notched like this guy modded his Pmags?

http://tar21.com/tavor-tar-21-and-magpul-pmags-issues-with-the-bolt-hold-open-device/

 

[lx1x]

Can one of you fellas who actually received the official Tavor mag with the rifle (mine was removed due to the MD 20-round limit) take a pic of the back of the feed lips? Are the official Tavor mags square-notched like this guy modded his Pmags?

http://tar21.com/tavor-tar-21-and-magpul-pmags-issues-with-the-bolt-hold-open-device/

are you having issues with the pmags??

that link was for tar-21... believe most canadian version is having issues with pmags.. not the american version..

i've run pmags on mine without mods and it runs fine.. i know couple others too with no issues.

 

[smdub]

Can one of you fellas who actually received the official Tavor mag with the rifle

FDE = IWI USA mag from Tavor
Black = PMAG Gen 2 windowed

US Tavor is Gen 2. Many canadians have Gen 1 and 1.5. Their top rails are different too. I have no probs w/ pmags.

 

[SCARCQB]

No issues with un modified P mags.

the only AR mags that do not work are drums.

 

[lx1x]

No issues with un modified P mags.

the only AR mags that do not work are drums.

With the mag all the way back.. it would be hard to shoulder the tavor anyways. Lol

 

[SCARCQB]

With the mag all the way back.. it would be hard to shoulder the tavor anyways. Lol

Fire it from the hip.

 

[DarthZed]

I finally bit-the-bullet and have one of these coming in. I seriously can't afford it atm, but I've wanted one for years; and if I don't get it now, I won't ever be able to (as long as I stay in this state at least). I just wish I had the funds to get the Meprolight optic.

 

[huesmann]

are you having issues with the pmags??

that link was for tar-21... believe most canadian version is having issues with pmags.. not the american version..

i've run pmags on mine without mods and it runs fine.. i know couple others too with no issues.

No. I took mine to Cresap this morning to deflower it. After having read that dude's blog post re: the notch at the back of the mag, I filed one of my Pmags down to match. I took a GI mag, a Lancer mag, an unadulterated Pmag, and the filed down Pmag with me. Experienced no FTFs with any of them. So I guess they're all good. Better safe than sorry! Won't bother filing any more Pmags down.

So the Canuck version is different than the Yank version?

Only thing that bothers me is my beta C-mag doesn't fit in the Tavor!

FDE = IWI USA mag from Tavor
Black = PMAG Gen 2 windowed

US Tavor is Gen 2. Many canadians have Gen 1 and 1.5. Their top rails are different too. I have no probs w/ pmags.

Thanks for the pic, dude!

 

[Gummy]

Finally got to try out my Tavor 16.5". I really like the ergonomics on this rifle. It's the only bullpup I've ever shot so I can't compare it to the likes of an AUG,FS2000or PS90. I need to spend some more time with it as far as the open sights go. I haven't decided on what optic I might go with. I tried my YHM Phantom 7.62 suppressor on it and it worked well. Not to much blowback. Didn't get to try my5.56 can on it because I forgot my oven mitt. Took a long time for that Phantom to cool down after a couple of mag dumps.

 

[huesmann]

Has anybody figured out a not-awkward way to unload and lock the bolt open on these bad boys yet?

 

[lx1x]

Has anybody figured out a not-awkward way to unload and lock the bolt open on these bad boys yet?

Hold/pull charging handle while resting/pressing on shoulder.. other hand pulling the bolt stop.

Little balancing act.. but practice and it will be easier.

 

[erwos]

IMHO, that qualifies as awkward.

Also, on the topic of optics, I've seen used MOR sights in the $700-$800 range (no IR laser). To me, that's nearly affordable for a combat-grade laser and tri-powered reflex sight with redundant electronics. *shrugs*

 

[jimusa]

I know a small local dealer that has one in stock for $2100+ tax. Let me know if your interested.

Oh by the way its a 16.5 inch black.

dealer add?

 

[Pinecone]

A dealer in Martinsburg (was at the HoCo) show has Black and possbily FDE in stock, and IDF version.

$1999 for flat top black or FDE plus tax. IDF version (hard mounted Meprolite) was $2599 plus tax. And you can receive with 30 round mag and buy additional mags.

forgett@mindspring.com

 

[SCARCQB]

Ive been letting people shoot my Tavor and AUG side by side. For some strange reason, folks prefer the AUG over the Tavor , 2:1

Im neutral, i like them both.

 

[CrawfishStu]

Ive been letting people shoot my Tavor and AUG side by side. For some strange reason, folks prefer the AUG over the Tavor , 2:1

Im neutral, i like them both.

Are you running a forward vert grip on the AUG and not the Tavor? I found several people that thought the Tavor was awkward before I put the vert grip on it using this.

http://www.bullpuparmory.com/product_p/iwi-tsrail.htm