Senator Kennedy Introduces Bill To Expand Concealed-carry Rights For Qualified Police Officers

[Boats]

I'm sick of the 'carve-outs' of all types. If it's fair for the goose, it's fair for the gander. If EVERYONE had to abide by every letter of these stupid laws, I'd bet there would be a LOT more resistance to passing them.

This.

 

[eruby]

I approve of carve outs

 

[4g64loser]

Not at all. I fight for what is right, I support any thing that increases, stings the opposition, that provides an opportunity to expand those rights to all. You let your anger for what occurs in the state of Maryland cloud your judgment. That is the big difference.

Right would be all citizens exercising their rights.

Leosa never helped me and none of the leosa campaigners I know of reached back to help the non-badged.

You are absolutely correct that I am angry. If you want to see me support anything for LE, I will have to be shown that they have done the same for me. The attitude/conduct of the state police in md has taught me to distrust and, in most cases, dislike them. Show me where they have cast out their bad apples and come out to help the common man in his exercise of rights. I'll wait.

 

[TexDefender]

Right would be all citizens exercising their rights.

Leosa never helped me and none of the leosa campaigners I know of reached back to help the non-badged.

You are absolutely correct that I am angry. If you want to see me support anything for LE, I will have to be shown that they have done the same for me. The attitude/conduct of the state police in md has taught me to distrust and, in most cases, dislike them. Show me where they have cast out their bad apples and come out to help the common man in his exercise of rights. I'll wait.

People like me.

 

[teratos]

People like me.

I will ask again, what did LEOSA do for you?

I will answer, since you wouldn’t before: Nothing.

 

[Park ranger]

Could have fooled me

Then you haven't paid attention to him

 

[Slackdaddy]

You don’t know me. The difference between you and me is I will accept any victory over the anti-gun crowd. Maryland didn’t become a deep blue state over night, and it will not turn red overnight either. It one small victory after another.

Maryland will never become a red state,,
It is all about demographics/Race,, and then sprinkle on top the lilly white liberals who are attracted to the DC area because of .gov jobs, And you have a state that is solidly Dem/liberal/leftist/communist/racist and will never change,, Short of a mass "On the road to Damascus" event.

 

[River02]

Nope...nope...nopity NOPE! Someone needs to get ahold of Kennedy and yank his chain on this garbage.

 

[teratos]

Democrats, Republicans...all play the game. What we NEED are Constitutionalists and they have nearly zero presence in the swamp.

 

[River02]

Democrats, Republicans...all play the game. What we NEED are Constitutionalists and they have nearly zero presence in the swamp.

Indeed...the Mr. Smiths go to Washington days are far behind us. God have mercy on the Republic--

 

[4g64loser]

People like me.

You are MDSP? You hit the bricks in Annapolis? You testified against infringement?

Will you arrest fellow officers for harassing or illegally detaining those exercising their rights? Feel like cuffing and stuffing Pope for us?

 

[E.Shell]

I will ask again, what did LEOSA do for you?

I will answer, since you wouldn’t before: Nothing.

^^ THIS ^^

There is no answer to support his irrational argument, there was no 'small victory', LMAO.

LEOSA never did one beneficial thing for a single private citizen, and lest we forget as we misuse terminology, police are ALSO civilians. The only non civilians in our society are military.

All LEOSA does is help keep our LEO/former LEO friends from objecting to the tryanny the rest of us are constantly subjected to. Most just don't care because they're not negatively affected...again.

Were it not for these exceptions and routine carve-outs in these unconstitutional restrictions, most police would be right there next to us in opposing the ongoing shitshow. As it is, why should they?

 

[1time]

How many of you “no carve out” people had gun permits for businesses, or even more hypocritical; started businesses for the gun permit?

You don’t think that’s a carve out?

 

[teratos]

How many of you “no carve out” people had gun permits for businesses, or even more hypocritical; started businesses for the gun permit?

You don’t think that’s a carve out?

It absolutely is.

 

[Brychan]

I support all first responders, that said an ex cop is just a citizen, and all citizens need to be treated equally.

 

[Doco Overboard]

How many of you “no carve out” people had gun permits for businesses, or even more hypocritical; started businesses for the gun permit?

You don’t think that’s a carve out?

Probably lots.

 

[TexDefender]

You are MDSP? You hit the bricks in Annapolis? You testified against infringement?

Will you arrest fellow officers for harassing or illegally detaining those exercising their rights? Feel like cuffing and stuffing Pope for us?

No, I'm not a member of Maryland State Police. I have protested, I have testified against infringement in my county. I'm not longer an officer, so I can't do what you're suggesting even if it was legal.

 

[TexDefender]

I support all first responders, that said an ex cop is just a citizen, and all citizens need to be treated equally.

That is absolutely correct! Hence this could be a point that could be used to overturn those laws that we all disagree with.

 

[teratos]

That is absolutely correct! Hence this could be a point that could be used to overturn those laws that we all disagree with.

This won’t happen. Legislators see an enormous difference. They are the 5-0…regular citizens are a 0. It doesn’t matter how much you shoot IDPA, or even if you were Delta Force.

 

[StantonCree]

Except that this doesn't get the ball rolling. It's not like LEOSA has benefitted the average person with a carry permit in any way and LEOSA has been around for decades.

You know me and what I do but I’ll generally agree with you here. Folks think cops are “trained” but honestly it’s a pretty good representation of the actual population. I mean that as cops probably train less than most MDS members. Folks like to look at cops as well trained but I think like the majority of CCWers they train very little.

I say that to say due to the perception cops are trained the bill did very little for the actual “citizen” gun owner.

^^hate using that term in quotes but it was necessary in this comment