Please convince me on Just These 4 choices for Home defense

[Bob A]

AR with pistol brace and 7.5" barrel in 300BO, subsonic, suppressed.
Red dot or Eotech sight.

 

[Art3]

No need, I have the .22 tubed SMLE with an '07 sword bayonet if i need "Quiet". (19 dB firing signature, I checked)!

If the apparition of my bald headed, fat arse charging you clad only in a Budgie Smuggler led by this don't make you "flee in terror" you're too dumb to survive anyway.

That looks like a weapon of war! Ladies, Gentleman, (and variations there upon) of the jury, clearly the defendant, "BFMIN the Bloodthirsty," had been training to KILL!!!! with military equipment!

 

[Art3]

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With a 10 round magazine (for less prosecution), that just might be perfect for this case.


(maybe it shouldn't be all black though...)

 

[BFMIN]

Yeah, well better hung for a sheep than a lamb I guess.
"OBJECTION! Prejudicial Characterizing of the accused"!
He was using a weapon cosmetically similar to a Weapon of war, but tell me, Councillor. Which military fielded the alleged "weapon of war" in .22 Rimfire? Please ennumerate. Was the smaller, quieter, less powerful & restricted entirely for training, version with its 1/5th" diameter breech, chamber & bore capable of taking the much larger bottleneck design, or was it not?

"BFMIN the Bloodthirsty,, I may well nick that for future forum handles though.

 

[jimbobborg]

I owned a Rossi .357 lever gun. Several problems with it. If the .38 Special rounds were too short, it would double feed. It would not cycle any JHPs.

With what you've listed. another AR in 9mm would make for a decent house gun. Subsonic rounds are really quiet out of a 16" barrel, like .22 LR quiet. You've got the capacity and the manual of arms down, too.

Keltecs are not hard use rifles, they're just handy if you have pistol mags that fit the magazine release in the grip.

 

[BFMIN]

"I owned a Rossi .357 lever gun. Several problems with it. If the .38 Special rounds were too short, it would double feed. It would not cycle any JHPs."
That specifically would be my concern.
A defensive rifle must be, above any ocher considerable standard ,UTTERLY reliable.

 

[AlBeight]

Yeah, well better hung for a sheep than a lamb I guess.
"OBJECTION! Prejudicial Characterizing of the accused"!
He was using a weapon cosmetically similar to a Weapon of war, but tell me, Councillor. Which military fielded the alleged "weapon of war" in .22 Rimfire? Please ennumerate. Was the smaller, quieter, less powerful & restricted entirely for training, version with its 1/5th" diameter breech, chamber & bore capable of taking the much larger bottleneck design, or was it not?

"BFMIN the Bloodthirsty,, I may well nick that for future forum handles though.

As long as you NEVER explain or show pics of a “Budgie Smuggler”. I’m certain I don’t want to know for sure.

 

[Alan3413]

Plus if decibel is a concern, the Witt Machine Sound Mitigation Equipment does not require a tax stamp and is found to be quite effective.

SME Sound Mitigation Equipment Slimline - Witt Machine

Colors: Graphite Black or Flat Dark Earth Calibers: 5.56 .30 Cal, 6.5, 9mm and 45 Thread Patterns: 1/2-28 and 5/8-24 ONLY Length: 4" The Slimline shroud has a diameter of 1 1/4inch and weighs 7.9oz with the brake. 45 IS ONLY AVAILABLE IN 5/8-24!!

wittmachine.net

This is interesting. Might get one just to see how well it works

 

[Worsley]

This is interesting. Might get one just to see how well it works

It works very well on my AR9

 

[Cool_Moo5e]

223/556 AR15 with the 16" barrel and a flashlight, low recoil, more rounds ready to go and you don't have to think about anything but acquiring the target and shooting, is it loud? yes, but that should be the alarm for your neighbors to call 911 so you can keep defending yourself if there is more than 1.

 

[RRomig]

There’s a lot of things about a firearm you may not notice in a fight for your life. Trigger, weight or even moa. There are some things though that will help give you an edge. If you can afford it use a suppressor on your house gun. One shot and done an open muzzle AR in the house won’t be the worse thing that could’ve happened but if it ends up being a few spaced out shots the can is going to make a big difference. It also helps calm down recoil , not as much as a good brake but you definitely don’t want a brake on a house gun. My wife’s 9mm pistol shoots subs with a can. She is not a shooter by any means so a shootable , comfortable gun she could practice with without getting rattled is huge.

 

[BFMIN]

As long as you NEVER explain or show pics of a “Budgie Smuggler”. I’m certain I don’t want to know for sure.

BWHAHAhAhAHAHA!

 

[jimbobborg]

"I owned a Rossi .357 lever gun. Several problems with it. If the .38 Special rounds were too short, it would double feed. It would not cycle any JHPs."
That specifically would be my concern.
A defensive rifle must be, above any ocher considerable standard ,UTTERLY reliable.

Yes, theres's a reason they're priced the way they are. Don't get me wrong, with ammunition they like they will run all day. But I wouldn't use one for HD. I have yet to fire my Marlin .357 yet, but I'll test it out next year when I have more .38 Special ammo. Buuuuut, it was $1200.

And just for fun, there's a guy who made speed loaders for lever guns, they look and acted very similar to tube shotgun speedloaders without needing a special adapter.

 

[Boats]

My answer to that question is always the same; whichever gun you can shoot the best. You have to be able to hit, accurately, what you aim at.

This is the way.

 

[Art3]

Any conclusion from the OP yet?

 

[King Chicken]

Any conclusion from the OP yet?

@arbud