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    danb

    dont be a dumbass
    Feb 24, 2013
    22,704
    google is your friend, I am not.
    From Bryan's FB page

    UPDATED

    DGS Spox confirms charges to be dropped today.

    Statement: "After a thorough review of all the evidence and supporting documentation, and after consulting with the Anne Arundel County States Attorney’s Office; the Maryland Capitol Police believes it is in the best interest of all parties involved not to pursue any criminal charges against Mr. Jeff Hulbert and Mr. Kevin Hulbert. Both defendants were charged on Monday, February 5, 2018. Today, MCP forwarded an official request to the states attorney’s office, asking that all the criminal charges in this case be dropped.

    "The Maryland Capitol Police fully supports the 1st Amendment Rights of freedom of speech and the right to peacefully assemble. The department is committed to providing a safe environment for employees, visitors, and demonstrators that frequent state facilities, which is why the Maryland Capitol Police have the ability to determine times, locations, and venues in which these demonstrations may occur; particularly when it involves the safety of others. The Maryland Capitol Police work hard at facilitating an orderly environment that is safe and pleasant for all to express their 1st amendment rights.

    The department will use this event to strengthen our community outreach training efforts and to further educate our officers and the general public, in order to clarify our "Demonstrating on Public Property" procedures so the policy is clear and understandable to the public for future demonstrations."

    Shorter version: We seriously ****ed up, please bail us out.
     

    dgapilot

    Active Member
    May 13, 2013
    711
    Frederick County
    We have two months left to get into SPECIFIC demonstrations against particular 2A infringement bills and bans.



    But remember, the Monday Night crowd will be populated by people who are FIRED UP ABOUT THE WORST KIND OF 1ST AMENDMENT INFRINGMENT--HANDCUFF INFRINGEMENT! We owe it to those folks to stage the 1A Picket that they signed up for.



    For that reason the focus for Monday Night does NOT change. Please know that we have always planned to bring some of our most striking 2A signs as a small centerpiece for the Picket, but that nearly everyone else will hold this sign below or the version of it they make at home.



    Remember, the power of this event comes from the horizon-to-horizon presentation of this very powerful slap at Statist suppression. It's just one night folks, so let's not walk on this FREEDOM OF SPEECH theme.



    Thanks. Sounds like good planning. Just wanted to throw it out there.


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    aray

    Ultimate Member
    Jun 6, 2010
    5,337
    MD -> KY
    Like most of us here I'll be there Monday night. But if I had one thing to add it is:

    This cannot end Monday!

    The enemy has shown us his true character: that of an authoritarian ruling class who think they can deprive us of clear Constitutional rights. They don't like and can't tolerate dissent. To them, we're just serfs to be controlled, whether that's controlling our speech or denying our civil rights to self defense. We don't matter; only they do. And they'll keep pushing, taking away more and more freedom and liberty, in every way possible, until we have nothing left.

    They are the modern day Tories. Their great-great-great Grandparents allied themselves with King George. They and their ilk are responsible for the Gulags, for the poverty and enslavement in Cuba, Venezuela, in North Korea, and so many other places where the arrogant elite think they are smarter than everyone else, they are more discerning than everyone else, they are more moral than everyone else, and only they have the insight and wisdom to run and control everyone else's economies, lives, actions, and liberties. They dole out favors to those who they deem fit, who are friends or lackeys, and deny or punish those who dare to differ. They preach diversity, but cannot and will not allow diversity of thought.

    We've won the first round, thanks to the patriotism and courage of Jeff and Kevin, the able legal assistance of CharlieFoxtrot, and the intervention of Maryland Republican Leadership and others who came to their better senses. But we can't give up now. We can't back down.

    it's a very good thing that we're there on Monday evening. But this is a call to arms to be there every Monday evening, and every time those who would trample us under their feet are forced to interact with and see those of us who they disdainfully rule. Jeff and Kevin and a handful of others have held the line for far too long. It's time for reinforcements.
     

    plumberone

    Active Member
    Aug 26, 2013
    393
    Millers, Maryland
    They went after R&R, who they knew to be the leader of the picket, to try and intimidate him. Trumped up false charges, violated his person with an illegal search of which they were hoping to find something on him that they'd undoubtedly use to discredit him, handcuffed him, hauled him off in a marked police cruiser and into the station for everyone to see, booked him, held him and forced him to have to acquire the services of an attorney.

    Lets not forget the arrest and charges that are permanently on his record of which he will have to use his own resources to get expunged otherwise they will henceforth affect his livelihood.

    :mad54:
    :thumbsup:
     

    iH8DemLibz

    When All Else Fails.
    Apr 1, 2013
    25,396
    Libtardistan
    Hey, Legal Eagles.

    Does the dropping of the charges mean the arrests never took place?

    Meaning the arrests are out of Maryland's database.
     

    BeoBill

    Crank in the Third Row
    MDS Supporter
    Oct 3, 2013
    27,305
    南馬里蘭州鮑伊
    Like most of us here I'll be there Monday night. But if I had one thing to add it is:

    This cannot end Monday!

    The enemy has shown us his true character: that of an authoritarian ruling class who think they can deprive us of clear Constitutional rights. They don't like and can't tolerate dissent. To them, we're just serfs to be controlled, whether that's controlling our speech or denying our civil rights to self defense. We don't matter; only they do. And they'll keep pushing, taking away more and more freedom and liberty, in every way possible, until we have nothing left.

    They are the modern day Tories. Their great-great-great Grandparents allied themselves with King George. They and their ilk are responsible for the Gulags, for the poverty and enslavement in Cuba, Venezuela, in North Korea, and so many other places where the arrogant elite think they are smarter than everyone else, they are more discerning than everyone else, they are more moral than everyone else, and only they have the insight and wisdom to run and control everyone else's economies, lives, actions, and liberties. They dole out favors to those who they deem fit, who are friends or lackeys, and deny or punish those who dare to differ. They preach diversity, but cannot and will not allow diversity of thought.

    We've won the first round, thanks to the patriotism and courage of Jeff and Kevin, the able legal assistance of CharlieFoxtrot, and the intervention of Maryland Republican Leadership and others who came to their better senses. But we can't give up now. We can't back down.

    it's a very good thing that we're there on Monday evening. But this is a call to arms to be there every Monday evening, and every time those who would trample us under their feet are forced to interact with and see those of us who they disdainfully rule. Jeff and Kevin and a handful of others have held the line for far too long. It's time for reinforcements.

    #MondayIsTheBeginning
     

    plumberone

    Active Member
    Aug 26, 2013
    393
    Millers, Maryland
    First MCP offers a statement "defending" their actions. Then the MCP CHIEF, issues citations for what they presumably think are charges that might stick. Now the SA office drops all charges. Lies beget lies. They screwed up so bad, this is almost worse than the whole "give them room to destroy" statement.

    Wishful thinking, but it would be sweet justice if someone rolled on who told them to arrest R&R. If that happened that would be the cherry on top.

    The original charges are BS but the additional charges on the following day show how f#%$%$ up this is!
     

    protegeV

    Ready to go
    Apr 3, 2011
    46,880
    TX
    This has got to be one of the fastest moving threads in the history of MDS. The riot thread being the only possible contender I can think of. :omg:
     

    Schipperke

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    18,842
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    babalou

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Aug 12, 2013
    16,246
    Glenelg
    nope

    From Bryan's FB page

    UPDATED

    DGS Spox confirms charges to be dropped today.

    Statement: "After a thorough review of all the evidence and supporting documentation, and after consulting with the Anne Arundel County States Attorney’s Office; the Maryland Capitol Police believes it is in the best interest of all parties involved not to pursue any criminal charges against Mr. Jeff Hulbert and Mr. Kevin Hulbert. Both defendants were charged on Monday, February 5, 2018. Today, MCP forwarded an official request to the states attorney’s office, asking that all the criminal charges in this case be dropped.

    "The Maryland Capitol Police fully supports the 1st Amendment Rights of freedom of speech and the right to peacefully assemble. The department is committed to providing a safe environment for employees, visitors, and demonstrators that frequent state facilities, which is why the Maryland Capitol Police have the ability to determine times, locations, and venues in which these demonstrations may occur; particularly when it involves the safety of others. The Maryland Capitol Police work hard at facilitating an orderly environment that is safe and pleasant for all to express their 1st amendment rights.

    The department will use this event to strengthen our community outreach training efforts and to further educate our officers and the general public, in order to clarify our "Demonstrating on Public Property" procedures so the policy is clear and understandable to the public for future demonstrations."

    Too late! As was stated earlier. Would like to know from where the original order to arrest came. As a public official, you cannot just spout flippant orders just because someone is hurting your itty bitty feelings and you are angry. You have a responsibility to maintain a cool head. Wow!! sounds a lot like how we are expected to do as lawful gun owners.
     

    fabsroman

    Ultimate Member
    Mar 14, 2009
    36,074
    Winfield/Taylorsville in Carroll
    Hey, Legal Eagles.

    Does the dropping of the charges mean the arrests never took place?

    Meaning the arrests are out of Maryland's database.

    Nope. The arrests took place and the charging documents were drafted up. Rack showed them in a photo. Now, whether the charges ever made it to the Maryland database depends on whether the clerk ever entered them. I'd file a request for expungement to ensure that the charging documents never see the light of day.

    Just as the letter says, the charges were dropped. There was an arrest, there were charges, and the charges were dropped. There is a record of the event out there.
     
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