No Guns Allowed - Salisbury Mall

[Stoveman]

Even Gary Slider doesn't know.


In all honesty I have seen more Gunbuster signs in TN than I have in MD. The only one I have seen around here was a BB&T Bank branch in the same office building of an attorney we use by Columbia Mall.

Ironically I occasionally do business with the BB&T in Elkridge and the last time I was in there they were not posted. Manager's discretion perhaps.....

 

[blacklab25]

If you buy a gun at Dick's they will escort you and hand you the gun at the outside entrance so you have to leave the mall and return to your vehicle.

 

[traveller]

I guess they saw the writing on the wall with Hogans election




Does the 'Centre' sell anything that is worth putting up with a mall and the 'mall people' for ?

 

[swinokur]

It doesn't really matter. If you are told to leave, you must leave.

The reason is irrelevant.

 

[5.56blaster]

Private property owners can tell you (non le on business) to not carry on their property. Just like at your house. My house my rules but you don't need to spend money where your not wanted.

 

[adit]

i honestly cannot remember last time i was at the center

(its called center at salisbury btw, the mall was torn down )

Yes, I know. It was just easier to type Mall. They can call it what they want. It's still a mall.

 

[Vile Shadow]

anyone see the irony if LE shows up to enforce a trespass, but mall security says "you can't come in here with a gun."

I'd hate to be the security guard who tries that.

 

[WeaponsCollector]

Gun free zones are great! All of us should have our own gun free zones.

 

[kenpo333]

Right but according to the county sheriff, people still have the right to CCW on private property that is generally open to the public so who wins?

Mike Lewis keep it up. Great to have him as a sheriff in Wicomico County. State's Attorney is a gun guy also.

 

[Yellowhand]

Does it also apply to fixed or folder knives worn on the belt? Sans "weapons".

 

[303_enfield]

Not working out to well right now. Mall is on lock down. Natives are acting up.

Here:
http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2015/01/major-issue-at-mall-in-salisbury.html

 

[Kman]

Jus' thugs be thugs yo!

Hands up, blah, blah, bullsh1t.

 

[traveller]

Sign is not working.

 

[DC-W]

Sign is not working.

Then they need to post bigger ones... and more of 'em!

 

[Kman]

Then they need to post bigger ones... and more of 'em!

Multilingual and stick figure signs too.

 

[pbharvey]

Not working out to well right now. Mall is on lock down. Natives are acting up.

Here:
http://sbynews.blogspot.com/2015/01/major-issue-at-mall-in-salisbury.html

Wicomico First Alert
Yesterday at 5:03pm · Edited ·
*Police Alert*
UPDATE: 8:57 pm | Police still on location. Still an active scene, but situation appears to be under control.
UPDATE: We have received reports that several businesses around the mall are going on lockdown, this includes Applebee's.
UPDATE: Centre at Salisbury is now on lockdown. K9 on scene. Peppers spray deployed.
UPDATE: Police requesting EMS to the scene. Salisbury PD, Maryland State Police, Sheriff's Office on location.
UPDATE: "Bean squad" to the scene. Officers may deploy beanbag guns.
UPDATE: Fire department requested.
UPDATE: This has spread to multiple locations outside the mall. AVOID the mall!
UPDATE: Now reports of people jumping on and vandalizing cars near Dick's.
UPDATE: More police units responding.
UPDATE: Groups of people are now located at Longhorne, Olive Garden, Hallmark, Regal, and Dick's.
UPDATE: Cars have collided in front of Macy's.

Centre at Salisbury

30-40 people causing a disturbance between Sears and Boscovs.
People throwing things at security guards.
Police units running lights. Responding priority.
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One report said the cops were chasing someone who had an open warrant. I wonder what got the crowd all jacked up? Besides their hatred of cops.

 

[md123]

I just can't believe that people are stupid enough to find comfort in a plastic sticker.

So lunatics like this one are going to see the sign and turn around with their bag of guns when they see the sticker?



Did anyone ever get a count of the number of disarmed military, police or competitive shooters in that Colorado movie theater? There must have been at least a few. Especially given the movie (Batman Dark Knight IIRC).



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[teratos]

"According to the Centre at Salisbury, "possession of any weapon, whether concealed or displayed openly, is in violation of the shopping center's policy."

I love the fact that someone feels safer with that sign being posted. Can you imagine some psycho waking up and deciding to shoot up Salisbury mall, getting all ready with his high caliber assault rifle and high capacity clips, and when he gets to the door he sees the sign. I'm sure he'll just say "Aw, man!", turn around go back to his mom's basement.

Without boring everyone with a lot of departmentally specific details, I'll say that sometimes it does apply and sometimes it doesn't. The biggest answer seems to be that if someone lawfully in charge of private property tells you to leave, you pretty much have to leave unless you're there in an official capacity with the proper paperwork.

I am not aware of anything in Maryland law that would say otherwise. My understanding is that they can ask you to leave. If you do not, you are trespassing.

The 2A restrains the govt, not private property owners. Your 2A rights stop at the Mall entrance.

It's like MDS. It's privately owned, therefore they make the rules.

THIS.

This is a VERY important point and one that turns a lot of 2A advocates into hypocrites. If we are going to ask that people recognize 2A Rights, we need to be aware of the rest of the Constitution. On private property, their house, their rules. If you don't respect that, you are ignoring another natural right because you erroneously feel that the 2A trumps everything.

 

[swinokur]

The Founding Fathers considered private property rights to be as important as the RKBA. To whit the 5th amendment:

Amendment V

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

To a lesser extent the 9th and 10A address it as well. Can't be for one and not the others, unless as Teratos pointed out, being a hypocrite is something you can embrace. I don't think most of us here can abide that.

 

[Hit and Run]

The nut rob that gunned down people in Aurora CO pased up on three much closer movie theaters and hit the only one with prominent " No Guns Allowed" sign.

If someone puts up a sign like that as I saw when living in Maine with a CCW, law or no law I will honor it. Of course I also won't do business the said "Victim Enablement Zone."