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Senior Member (Gold)
NO.
Can't wait to see Feinstein holding one of these up for the press.
We have to keep in mind though that the defense to that statistic is that far more people have acess to and use step ladders and swimming pools than to firearms. So in essence its the proportion that matters moreso than the deaths.
Actually - I feel sorry for you. Read this:
https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...eases?id=8B3E8400-766E-4B5E-B59B-C800BB52A973
My heart really bleed for the victims. On the other hand, you are taking less than a thousand people killed in mass shootings over something like a couple of decades, out of 300 million citizens in this country.
We are going to screw everyone’s rights because of a few mass shootings a year, as tragic as they are? In the same time period more than half a million people died in car accidents.
My heart really bleed for the victims. On the other hand, you are taking less than a thousand people killed in mass shootings over something like a couple of decades, out of 300 million citizens in this country.
We are going to screw everyone’s rights because of a few mass shootings a year, as tragic as they are? In the same time period more than half a million people died in car accidents.
My heart really bleed for the victims. On the other hand, you are taking less than a thousand people killed in mass shootings over something like a couple of decades, out of 300 million citizens in this country.
We are going to screw everyone’s rights because of a few mass shootings a year, as tragic as they are? In the same time period more than half a million people died in car accidents.
Both our state senators are proposing a ban on assault weapons.
Those in the hands of Marylanders will be able to keep them.
The scramble begins and prices to soar.
33000 firearms related deaths every year. Ok. Let's not even bother to compare that to other forms of death that far exceed these numbers but don't get the same media attention, and thus, the attention of the people that think they pass laws that make sense.
Of the 33000, there are three major groups of victims.
The largest group is death by firearms for suicide. This is a mental health issue. Solve the problem.
The next largest group is urban youth. This is an environmental, educational and cultural issue. So solve the problem(s).
The third major group is domestic violence related. This too, is a multidimensional issue. But a solvable problem.
Less than 0.1% of firearms related deaths are mass shootings each year. By bump stocks, off the charts (because it's so small).
Because our legislatures can't fire off neurons in the brain, they want to spend time, money and effort on the 0.1% of the problem or worse (such as bump stocks) in order to preserve the next election, and "feel good" about themselves, and spread that "feel good" to constituents.
In other words, the world as we know it is absolutely bat sh!t crazy.
You can NOT fight bat sh!t crazy with logic, statistics and reasoning. We must find another way to get this to sink in, but the current approach of waving the 2a flag is just not getting heard across the aisle--people can not connect the RIGHT to bear arms with putting heads together to solve problems that aren't firearm issues (they are issues of violence, no matter what the tool used). I don't know the answer, but it's our responsibility to solve THAT problem.
Stumped...
You make a good point, and frankly I should have used the word "mitigate", as you suggest. But i stand by point: the current approach to us vs them has lead everyone to a shaky stalemate, and other approaches to gaining ground in the fight are needed. I want to emphasize i want to GAIN ground, not just simply hold what we have. I suggest refocusing on the real issues, the 33000, and a return to evidence based problem solving/mitigation techniques is warranted. "The other side" simply doesn't hear anything any more. The mere mention of 2A just isn't heard. Think of it as a national approach to Getting to Yes (by Roger Fisher). ymmv...Stumped, I have to respectfully note that it's critically important I believe, to begin with a realization that these problems will NEVER be solved. They can be mitigated perhaps. They can be lessened perhaps. But they cannot be solved. These problems and more are as old as humanity itself. The distinction between one's desire to solve and solvability is important IMO, because the latter illusion is the erroneous foundation upon which many and most of the arguments against firearms arise. And by extension. and given an erroneous foundation, the arguments themselves are by definition equally invalid. I would LOVE to see a politician with the stones to stand up and publically acknowledge this reality. It's indeed a very unpleasant reality to anyone with a soul or a conscience. But it's a reality nonetheless. We do indeed live in an oftentimes dangerous and always imperfect world.
It further follows that if completely "eliminating" the undesirable problems is an impossibility, then it becomes incumbent upon leadership to allow and indeed to ideally encourage the correctness of availing to one's self when and where possible, the means of having at least a chance of protecting ones self and others. Or at the very least, and if such public political lacks the courage, and acknowledgement isn't forthcoming, then at least have to common decency to stand aside from being in another man's way.
Both our state senators are proposing a ban on assault weapons.
Those in the hands of Marylanders will be able to keep them.
The scramble begins and prices to soar.
Newspeak.
Orwell was very prophetic.
You make a good point, and frankly I should have used the word "mitigate", as you suggest. But i stand by point: the current approach to us vs them has lead everyone to a shaky stalemate, and other approaches to gaining ground in the fight are needed. I want to emphasize i want to GAIN ground, not just simply hold what we have. I suggest refocusing on the real issues, the 33000, and a return to evidence based problem solving/mitigation techniques is warranted. "The other side" simply doesn't hear anything any more. The mere mention of 2A just isn't heard. Think of it as a national approach to Getting to Yes (by Roger Fisher). ymmv...
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Can't wait to see Feinstein holding one of these up for the press.
Newspeak.
Orwell was very prophetic.