MD Dems announce new “gun safety” measures.

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  • j_h_smith

    Ultimate Member
    Jul 28, 2007
    28,516
    I have been debating this bill to eliminate the Handgun Permit Review Board. In the back of my mind, I keep thinking this may ultimately be a good thing and backfire on the progressives. A judge may decide to follow the constitution - the Wrenn and 7th circuit decisions were persuasive. Plus, it may give us another shot at the 4th circuit via a direct appeal of a denial of a permit. An administrative law judge may ultimately decide that self defense qualifies as G&S.

    This is Maryland remember. Most of those judges will do what they're told to do. The chances of them mandating G&S is slim to none and slim left town.
     

    Stagstalker

    Active Member
    Jan 15, 2017
    159
    The cesspool of MD
    ALJ's are simply another finger of the hand thats beating on you. Ive been before more than my share, they can be as corrupt as the day is long because there is no accountability, not to mention you will have attorney fees. Let the HPRB be replaced by the military court of the well regulated militia.
     

    LeadSled1

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 25, 2009
    4,276
    MD
    Look at the first draft, then look at what passed. We made an enormous difference.

    That is the one thing I worry about. Instead of letting the MGA drive the bus off a cliff and violate our constitutional rights so bad that any court could see it, we grabbed them by the shirt collar on their way over the edge. In the overall picture, was that better for the 2A in the long run? I feel we have become a sounding board for MGA to throw things against to see how much of a violation it would be since they do not know firearms. They come up with with craziest text in a bill, we say how F'ed up it is and why, they tailor it and we get crapped on. Hopefully things are different this time.
     

    jkeys

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    Jan 30, 2013
    668
    That is the one thing I worry about. Instead of letting the MGA drive the bus off a cliff and violate our constitutional rights so bad that any court could see it, we grabbed them by the shirt collar on their way over the edge. In the overall picture, was that better for the 2A in the long run? I feel we have become a sounding board for MGA to throw things against to see how much of a violation it would be since they do not know firearms. They come up with with craziest text in a bill, we say how F'ed up it is and why, they tailor it and we get crapped on. Hopefully things are different this time.

    Only because we prefer not to be turned into felons overnight.
     

    Schipperke

    Ultimate Member
    MDS Supporter
    Feb 19, 2013
    18,790
    Public Safety – Handgun Permit Review Board – Repeal

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    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,112
    Poppa Joe Vallario is attached to the handgun permit review board repeal bill. Odds are high that thing will sail out of committee.

    Nope, nope, nope. The delayed training bill made it out of the House with no real amendments to it that affected us. It also made it out of the Senate JPR with few amendments, Sen Maldelano got it added as a floor amendment on the 3rd reader in the Senate on Sine Die last year.
     

    Abacab

    Member
    Sep 10, 2009
    2,644
    MD
    Nope, nope, nope. The delayed training bill made it out of the House with no real amendments to it that affected us. It also made it out of the Senate JPR with few amendments, Sen Maldelano got it added as a floor amendment on the 3rd reader in the Senate on Sine Die last year.

    I'm not sure what you're saying. You think Vallario cosponsoring the permit review board repeal bill isn't a big deal?
     

    dblas

    Past President, MSI
    MDS Supporter
    Apr 6, 2011
    13,112
    I'm not sure what you're saying. You think Vallario cosponsoring the permit review board repeal bill isn't a big deal?

    Sorry, I mis-read it the first time as "he attached the HPRB repeal bill".
     

    rocket-75

    Member
    Dec 30, 2014
    8
    obama voting stupid white liberals

    commie gun-grabbers like that Mike the turd keep getting re-elected because of Obama voting stupid white liberals... how much bribe money has Mike the turd pocketed????
     

    Anwil6

    Member
    May 7, 2017
    56
    Baltimore
    This is total bulls**t! I’m so sick of getting crapped on as if the people, such as myself, who purchase legally to the tee are the ones responsible for these egregious, heinous crimes. We’re talking about cowards who prey in groups on women, the elderly and men walking alone. They rob, and even with total compliance of the unsuspecting victims, they severely wound, beat, and kill. But these dumb f**king dems think infringing on our constitutional right is the key to solving these problems??? Are you f**king kidding me? As if these POSs are standing next to me getting fingerprinted, FBI & NICS checked, waiting for MSP to not-disapprove EVERY regulated firearm purchase.

    Why do these dumb f**ks have jobs as politicians? They give two s**ts about my family’s lives! All the idiots who believe this is good policy are ignorant and dependent on the system. If there were more people able to walk around with their firearms holstered we wouldn’t be knee deep in crime, hopeless s**t.


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    Abacab

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    Sep 10, 2009
    2,644
    MD
    The newest transfer bill designed to stop any loans is out.

    It seems to me they're writing a lot of these based on what is said on this board.

    I'm guilty of speaking openly about things the law allows for but I'm going to stop. The forum would benefit from blocking everyone that isn't registered from reading the posts.
     
    The newest transfer bill designed to stop any loans is out.

    It seems to me they're writing a lot of these based on what is said on this board.

    I'm guilty of speaking openly about things the law allows for but I'm going to stop. The forum would benefit from blocking everyone that isn't registered from reading the posts.

    Currently 24 members and 166 guests. They have our playbook.
     

    Abacab

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    Sep 10, 2009
    2,644
    MD
    Currently 24 members and 166 guests. They have our playbook.

    And we're screwing ourselves. I'm sure some will cry BGOS but they're usually the most braindead. There's no rational basis for giving information to people who hate us to use against us.
     

    Racer Doug14

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    Feb 22, 2013
    8,008
    Millers Maryland
    It's always been an underlying point on this forum. Our enemies are among us. That will always be the reason new members are pressed hard. And while not the best policy, it has it's purposes.
     

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