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  • John from MD

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    I have a Henry .22 with a 16 inch barrel that I want to have threaded. To do so will require the barrel to be shorter than 16 inches which will require a tax stamp. I have a few questions.

    Is this done on a Form 1? If so, do I leave the rifle with the 07 FFL until the tax stamp comes back? How do I send pics since it will be illegal if I cut the barrel?

    TIA
     

    outrider58

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    I have a Henry .22 with a 16 inch barrel that I want to have threaded. To do so will require the barrel to be shorter than 16 inches which will require a tax stamp. I have a few questions.

    Is this done on a Form 1? If so, do I leave the rifle with the 07 FFL until the tax stamp comes back? How do I send pics since it will be illegal if I cut the barrel?

    TIA
    Don't have the work done until the stamp comes. What am I missing?
     

    smdub

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    e-form 1 can be a couple weeks.

    Why do you have to cut the bbl back?
     

    smdub

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    Have a pic? (or a model # so I can look it up)

    Weld up the dovetail? Pin/weld a threaded adapter to make up the length again? Seems a shame to SBR something for just a 1/2". But if you are going to chop it back to the loading tube then its not so bad. I don't know the model so don't know how long the loading tube is.
     

    John from MD

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    Have a pic? (or a model # so I can look it up)

    Weld up the dovetail? Pin/weld a threaded adapter to make up the length again? Seems a shame to SBR something for just a 1/2". But if you are going to chop it back to the loading tube then its not so bad. I don't know the model so don't know how long the loading tube is.
    It is the Frontier Model. It would be cut just aft of the dovetail and that would allow the loading tube to stay as it is. Welding the dovetail came to mind but there would be a hardness difference and than can cause issues with threading. I guess I can ask as, in making it an SBR, it will cost me @350 so, if he can do it inside that price range, it would be worth it.
     

    Slowhand

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    It is the Frontier Model. It would be cut just aft of the dovetail and that would allow the loading tube to stay as it is. Welding the dovetail came to mind but there would be a hardness difference and than can cause issues with threading. I guess I can ask as, in making it an SBR, it will cost me @350 so, if he can do it inside that price range, it would be worth it.
    Weld it and thread it 1st. IF, and only IF threading is a problem, cut it. Just MHO.
     

    89BSP

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    After it is cut and threaded, will you still be able to load it, will there be enough clearance for the loading tube rod with a suppressor on, or are you threading it for another reason?
     

    John from MD

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    After it is cut and threaded, will you still be able to load it, will there be enough clearance for the loading tube rod with a suppressor on, or are you threading it for another reason?
    I am wanting to use a can on it. I don't care about removing the can to load ammo. I will be using it for pest control, not target shooting.
     

    John from MD

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    Weld it and thread it 1st. IF, and only IF threading is a problem, cut it. Just MHO.
    Ok, Trevor from S&S says he will turn and thread if I can find someone to weld it. He also reminded me that heat can warp the barrel so it may not be as accurate as it is right now.

    I am going to start another thread dedicated to filling in the dove tail and see what our welding experts say.
     

    SandSGunsSOMD

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    Ok, Trevor from S&S says he will turn and thread if I can find someone to weld it. He also reminded me that heat can warp the barrel so it may not be as accurate as it is right now.

    I am going to start another thread dedicated to filling in the dove tail and see what our welding experts say.
    Hey John!

    There is actually another alternate option we can do that won’t involve any NFA rules

    If you’re wanting to thread it for a can, we can cut it down then pin and weld a suppressor QD muzzle device and it would make the barrel longer than 16” past the muzzle device. If you want threads we could do similarly with just a threaded barrel extension.

    This is probably the easiest route for you, let me know!

    Trevor
     

    rseymorejr

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    It'd be cheaper and less trouble to pick up a 22 rifle that's already threaded than to go through all this work and expense
     

    smdub

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    Hey John!

    There is actually another alternate option we can do that won’t involve any NFA rules

    If you’re wanting to thread it for a can, we can cut it down then pin and weld a suppressor QD muzzle device and it would make the barrel longer than 16” past the muzzle device. If you want threads we could do similarly with just a threaded barrel extension.

    This is probably the easiest route for you, let me know!

    Trevor

    What 22 can uses a QD muzzle device?
     

    John from MD

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    John from MD

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    Hey John!

    There is actually another alternate option we can do that won’t involve any NFA rules

    If you’re wanting to thread it for a can, we can cut it down then pin and weld a suppressor QD muzzle device and it would make the barrel longer than 16” past the muzzle device. If you want threads we could do similarly with just a threaded barrel extension.

    This is probably the easiest route for you, let me know!

    Trevor
    Thanks for thinking about the problem but that would make it a little too ugly. While putting some cold blue over a weld job I could live with, having a big blob out in front just wouldn't do.

    I am still looking into the possibility of having the dovetail welded up.
     

    Bafflingbs

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    Do you really think that anyone would risk a baffle strike by using something like that?:crazy:
    I’m assuming that you are getting your barrel cut and threaded, by a competent gunsmith. So yes, after pinning and welding this in place, you will then have your barrel length back, with threads and no need for a tax stamp. But, I also said I agreed with rseymorejr. Buying a new or used rifle, that already has threads, may be a more viable alternative. Funny that you worry about baffle strikes and call my idea crazy (:crazy:) but when S&S recommends it, it’s just because you think it’ll be ugly.
     
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