Longest Length AR Carbine Stock and Buffer Combo

[j_h_smith]

Vltor stock in itself won't do it, they are referring to a Vltor A5 system which has a longer buffer tube. You can use an magpul ACS or Vltor to get a longer LOP.

You will need buffer spacers to run that with most 9mm buffers as there will be more bolt travel.

I have the A5 system and it still wouldn't make the minimum length with the 8.5 barrel. I will have to pin something on it to make that length.

 

[j_h_smith]

Have you looked into integrally suppressed 9mm bbls? You're only , maybe, an inch and a half from making 29'', right? ...or am I wishfully thinking?

No, I wouldn't want that. I want many hosts for my suppressor, no since in another $200 for a 1 gun suppressor.

 

[clandestine]

I have the A5 system and it still wouldn't make the minimum length with the 8.5 barrel. I will have to pin something on it to make that length.

I never said that it would. The Vltor RE and a longer Carbine Stock will only add about 1.25". at 9" you will get darn close. 9.5" will make it.

 

[dontpanic]

I'm going to get one of these and figure how to integrate it into a carbine stock. I think I can add 2.5" to 3" to the stock. Fully extend it, take my measurements and then completely colapse it.

http://www.stargunsupply.com/store/sierra-precision-ar-15-adjustable-buttplate-usa-canada.html

Still in the planning stages.

 

[rico903]

Simple question for a simple mind MD aside, does ATF have a min OAL for an SBR?

 

[j_h_smith]

Simple question for a simple mind MD aside, does ATF have a min OAL for an SBR?

Not that I'm aware of.

 

[outrider58]

Simple question for a simple mind MD aside, does ATF have a min OAL for an SBR?

AFAIK, if it has a butt, it's a rifle. If it has a barrel shorter than 16", it's an SBR. Never heard of a minimum length.

 

[sundaeman]

Maybe this would add OAL when FULLY extended ?

Mako Group GLR16 with Cheek Riser

 

[Slimjim]

You guys just need to take a page from the MN gun owners when building these.

The can fits inside a sleeve that is perm attached to the end of the barrel, you may have to have the shoulder before the threads begin turned back slightly But the can slides down inside the tube and attaches, the tube being perm attached brings the barrel to the length you need.

 

[smdub]

Simple question for a simple mind MD aside, does ATF have a min OAL for an SBR?

Not a minimum, but a <26" rifle is an SBR no matter the length of the barrel. A 25.9" OAL rifle, even if it has a 16.1" barrel is an SBR. Typ requires a bullpup config to run afoul of that rule.

The can fits inside a sleeve that is perm attached to the end of the barrel

Same as tac-sol 10/22 barrel. Other folks have done it to. Good for avoiding an SBR stamp.

But if you still want a short SBR and can do that level of work anyway, just extend a buffer tube. Thats the solution to the OPs question. A couple of us have discussed it at length and think you could make a AR w/ ~6" barrel meet the 29" MD law and not move the minimum past the A2 stock LOP. Get two buffers, chop one, a little welding it to the other and bingo. FWIW, use 6061 tubes to make your life easier.

 

[Slimjim]

Not a minimum, but a <26" rifle is an SBR no matter the length of the barrel. A 25.9" OAL rifle, even if it has a 16.1" barrel is an SBR. Typ requires a bullpup config to run afoul of that rule.


Same as tac-sol 10/22 barrel. Other folks have done it to. Good for avoiding an SBR stamp.

But if you still want a short SBR and can do that level of work anyway, just extend a buffer tube. Thats the solution to the OPs question. A couple of us have discussed it at length and think you could make a AR w/ ~6" barrel meet the 29" MD law and not move the minimum past the A2 stock LOP. Get two buffers, chop one, a little welding it to the other and bingo. FWIW, use 6061 tubes to make your life easier.

On the design i posted you could take it a step farther have the end of the tube threaded for an end cap use an ID that just happens to share with a freeze plug and file a stamp on it, engrave it and boom, now its a can

 

[rayrevolver]

Anyone have the Emod stock + A5? Emod LOP is 1.5" longer than Imod.

 

[j_h_smith]

I have one Vltor Basic EMOD kit, milspec, with A5 kit. Black in color. Has a few scuffs on the tube but nothing you will notice when installed. In box with part number AEBK-A5B.

Price-$5,175.00 or Best Offer.