I'm contemplating moving away from 9mm

[travistheone]

ready to send me your ammo yet?

 

[jimbobborg]

ready to send me your ammo yet?

Do you really want a bunch of mouse fart competition reloads?

Anyway, I got a 4" carry .357 now, thanks to NOVA Firearms. Armscor has a decent .38 snubby with bobbed hammer for under $300, so that's next. I'm thinking the nickeled version. Once I get that, I can sell my PF9 and P07, which leaves me with my SP-01 for 3-gun. Then the hunt is on for a 10mm 1911.

 

[ashershapiro]

Is the world about to end? I didn't get the memo.

 

[BenL]

I remember years ago, the FBI did a statistical analysis of gunshot calibers and the resulting fatalities. If I remember correctly, there's little correlation between caliber size and likelihood of neutralizing the target. It's all about placement, no matter the caliber (pistols, that is...)

Half the year (summer months), I carry a Ruger LCP loaded with Corbon 90gr.

 

[jimbobborg]

I remember years ago, the FBI did a statistical analysis of gunshot calibers and the resulting fatalities. If I remember correctly, there's little correlation between caliber size and likelihood of neutralizing the target. It's all about placement, no matter the caliber.

Half the year (summer months), I carry a Ruger LCP loaded with Corbon 90gr.

I'll be carrying a 32-20 then

 

[OrbitalEllipses]

I remember years ago, the FBI did a statistical analysis of gunshot calibers and the resulting fatalities. If I remember correctly, there's little correlation between caliber size and likelihood of neutralizing the target. It's all about placement, no matter the caliber (pistols, that is...)

Half the year (summer months), I carry a Ruger LCP loaded with Corbon 90gr.

Generally speaking, handgun caliber terminal ballistics are all pretty similar with pretty similar mortality rates.

We should all be carrying AR pistols if lethality was the main concern.

 

[jimbobborg]

One more point I considered with regards to what I'm contemplating (and almost done implementing), if SHTF and we're in a WROL situation, I'm more likely to keep my brass with a revolver versus with the semi-auto systems. And I can use BP in the .38 and .357 brass, which is not really feasible with 9mm and other rounds developed during the smokeless powder era.

 

[jimbobborg]

Before you jump check out this thread https://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=200417

Pretty interesting discussion on the wounds caused by various calibers

The OP of that thread seems to have disappeared. I'm wondering about the veracity of his posts now.

 

[K31]

The NRA says you should move to fo'tay.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/ar...guns-the-40-is-a-better-choice-than-the-9-mm/

 

[LONGSHOT]

don't put to many rounds of plus p thru your colt,not rated for it.

 

[jimbobborg]

I sold the PF9 last night, going to sell the Model 10 this week to get a couple of more Colts.

 

[GolfR]

Generally speaking, handgun caliber terminal ballistics are all pretty similar with pretty similar mortality rates.

We should all be carrying AR pistols if lethality was the main concern.

Are we talking about the mortality rate of the first person in line or two guys behind the one you are shooting at?

 

[CruncherBlock]

I've read through this thread and thought about this quite deeply for about 3 minutes. Have you considered working out and building a little muscle mass? If you bulk up a bit you might not notice the extra weight of carrying 3-4 mags of .45. Maybe you could this very easily doing 50 pushups a day and some arm curls. That way you don't have to sell your stuff.

 

[Bikebreath]

I've read through this thread and thought about this quite deeply for about 3 minutes. Have you considered working out and building a little muscle mass? If you bulk up a bit you might not notice the extra weight of carrying 3-4 mags of .45. Maybe you could this very easily doing 50 pushups a day and some arm curls. That way you don't have to sell your stuff.

Two milkshakes a day could work, too.

 

[jimbobborg]

I've read through this thread and thought about this quite deeply for about 3 minutes. Have you considered working out and building a little muscle mass? If you bulk up a bit you might not notice the extra weight of carrying 3-4 mags of .45. Maybe you could this very easily doing 50 pushups a day and some arm curls. That way you don't have to sell your stuff.

I'm selling my stuff to get better, more effective stuff. You, obviously, have never carried a .45 with 3-4 extra mags all day.

 

[kgain673]

The FBI says 9mm is the best round and the FBI's reputation for being honest, forthright and unbiased is unequaled.

I don't know if this quote is your own, but I'm posting this phrase in my office and I'll give you credit.

 

[CruncherBlock]

I'm selling my stuff to get better, more effective stuff. You, obviously, have never carried a .45 with 3-4 extra mags all day.

It's all about where you put it. If you have a 4-5 pound mass dangling on a belt, sure that's going to hurt you. Spread it out. A standard man's large dress buttondown breast pocket can hold 2 mags without being exposed. I know, I've done it. You can get those inspector style shirts with pockets along your biceps and get a mag in there. If you go with that style, you will want to work out your arms a little to deal with the extra weight. Alternatively, you could hold them on your ankles. Amazon sells an ankle holster for them: https://www.amazon.com/ActiveProGear-Ankle-Double-Magazine-Carrier/dp/B008LUXABM

There's some great gear out there and you can color coordinate with your existing wardrobe.

You can't get more effective then .45 unless you go .50. Everybody knows that.

 

[Boss]

What other calibers are you looking at? Most semi auto pistol calibers are comparable with exception of full power 10mm (your not going to carry a desert eagle so .50ae doesnt count). But then you need to consider how well you can shoot a more powerful round compared to 9mm.

Most people stick with 9mm because its deadly on almost all living things, but wont kill your bank account like other calibers will.

 

[jimbobborg]

What other calibers are you looking at? Most semi auto pistol calibers are comparable with exception of full power 10mm (your not going to carry a desert eagle so .50ae doesnt count). But then you need to consider how well you can shoot a more powerful round compared to 9mm.

Most people stick with 9mm because its deadly on almost all living things, but wont kill your bank account like other calibers will.

Power to weight ratio is why I'm looking at moving to a 10mm 1911 and a snubbie .357. I have a carry permit from the Commonwealth, so I can carry up to the DC and Maryland state lines I do compete, which is why the shorter calibers are going to be relegated to competitions only. I have 1500 rounds of 10mm and 1200 rounds of .38 Special and 700 rounds of .357 Magnum. I'm also a reloader.



I've been carrying a Colt Cobra since I got it on Monday. Even with six rounds of +P 125gr JHPs, it's lighter than the 9mm subcompact I've been carrying. Two speedloaders of the same ammunition weigh about the same as the one extra mag of the 9mm. Short of a Walking Dead scenario, I've got enough to get to my vehicle with what's in the revolver and the two speed loaders. Don't get me wrong, more capacity is usually better, but I don't want to carry the extra weight.



I've owned and shot 10mm since 1990, I have brass and ammunition and factory rounds. I like the 180 and 200 gr loads I have and now that Sig is entering the mix, I've got more choices for ammunition now than has been since the early 90s.

I really should have mentioned earlier, due to the internal blood filter I have in my abdomen, it's very painful for me to sit with my belt cinched enough to hold a full sized pistol up and be able to sit down while driving. Assuming I can get another 10mm 1911 soon, I'll be carrying that in a shoulder holster with one spare mag when it gets colder.

I realize it takes a lot to read a whole thread, but I pointed out what I have and will get. Thanks.

 

[Bikebreath]

I stand by the milkshake workout.