GuitarmanNick
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In a current civil war both sides would be shooting 5.56 and 7.62x39 would go bye bye?
??? Not really sure how to respond.
In a current civil war both sides would be shooting 5.56 and 7.62x39 would go bye bye?
I am still trying to understand what the bet is and I've been speaking English my entire life.
The bet is to see what the OP puts in the classified when they get to 50 posts.
I am still trying to understand what the bet is and I've been speaking English my entire life.
556 is a wounding round NOT a Kill round. 762x39 is a Killing Round. 545 is on the same track to wound not kill...
We Think 556 was a better choice when actually it was related to monetary and weight not effectiveness.
IMO 762 Nato is a better route. as well as the Russian equal 762x54...
In a current civil war both sides would be shooting 5.56 and 7.62x39 would go bye bye?
African or European? Fully laden?
Now I'm hungry for pizza.
I know most of us own rifles in various configurations but if you are talking urban environment, don't over look 12 gauge. The guns and ammo are VERY plentiful and easier to use for those with minimal training or experience. If you are talking about open warfare among the public, I bet you will see a lot of shotguns being used.
African or European? Fully laden?
You're ahead of me.
I'm still trying to figure out why the question.
Well, based on the open warfare among the public in Baltimore, I'd say mostly 9mm or .22lr.
Yes.... but it has to be mis-matched. Preferably a random distribution of FMJ ball, lead, and hollow point, with a mixture of brass and steel cartridges all jammed into a single magazine.
Uh, weight considerations are certainly important in regards to effectiveness. I'd rather have 210 rounds of 5.56 that can be fired effectively full auto from a shouldered rifle or rapidly and accurately in semiauto then 100rnds that is completely spray and pray on full auto and isn't as accurate or at least not as rapid fire in semiauto.
With a more civilian type kit where it is going to be more skirmished with limited to no body armor weighing you down the weight difference may not be as important, but you can still carry more ammo for the same weight.
Also since we aren't talking Geneva convention here, gold dots and other expanding ammo make the 5.56 a very effective round. Heck even MHPBT is pretty effective.
I'd love to have an AR-10 or some other .308 as a battle rifle or SHTF rifle, but 5.56 still serves better for a lot of reasons and .308 serves better in only an very limited range of circumstances. It makes a great hunting rifle, sniper rifle and fixed position battle rifle. Not the kind of thing I'd want to be humping all over hell and beyond. Maybe if I was part of a squad or platoon where everyone else was backing me up and I was acting as the designated marksman.
but in most situations, the looters would be robbing the local gun shops, Dicks Sporting Goods, Cabela's, Bass Pro Shop's, etc. Most of these shops carry a larger stock of 223 ammunition , than they do of 7.62x39. I agree that most hoarders will have a variety of ammunition that the every day criminal wouldn't have or even have knowledge of. There are more black guns in the general publics hands then there are SKS's, AK-47's, AK-74's and other 7.62x39 variants. If you want to look at what is available to the normal low end gun owner, then most of them have 9mm's, 40 cal's, 380's because of the cheaper price and they are more available.
OK. I'll play this what if game...forget about calibers. Can you say booby traps and IEDs? That's all you need. The majority of people in this country don't know how to secure food and water left alone anything else. Have you ever been to Walmart? You hope none of them will be your teammate!