HB1302-"The Neighborhood Bag Lady Can Take Your Guns" bill

[Biggfoot44]

Yeah , that what I meant type . The default assumption is the Respondent would eventually get the firearms back after ERPO no longer in force . No mention in statute of any ammunition.

Of course , we also must keep an eye on the proposed COMAR regulations .

 

[Not_an_outlaw]

Mentioning COMAR, isn't there another chance to kill this bill during the writing of COMAR? Isn't there an approval process for the new rules?

 

[swinokur]

30 days for comments. I don't recall any other impediments to enactment

 

[mac1_131]

Mentioning COMAR, isn't there another chance to kill this bill during the writing of COMAR? Isn't there an approval process for the new rules?

Sure and a chance it gets worse at that stage too, just like FSA2013 did.

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[swinokur]

Yep look at what MSP did to the HQL requirement. They added a single round of live fire where none was required in the statute

 

[rockstarr]

still nothing from the Hogan camp?

 

[BeoBill]

I can't imagine them doing that.

I can imagine them leaving them to rust up in a damp basement.

Bad law full of malice malice malice.

That's exactly what Grabby Cathy, Jumpin' Jen and Bloomberg's pet lobbyist intended. This law is to be wielded like a bludgeon, nothing more.

 

[swinokur]

The Gov has 30 days

 

[BeoBill]

Mentioning COMAR, isn't there another chance to kill this bill during the writing of COMAR? Isn't there an approval process for the new rules?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

[iH8DemLibz]

That's exactly what Grabby Cathy, Jumpin' Jen and Bloomberg's pet lobbyist intended. This law is to be wielded like a bludgeon, nothing more.

And that's why it's up to the good police officers and sheriffs, everywhere, to tell their superiors the law is unconstitutional and refuse to carry out the illegal and immoral seizures.

 

[GrimReaper]

I guess ill be hiding a lot of my guns. They cant take them if they cant find them

 

[zoostation]

I'd wager if the antifa freaks and the rest of the social justice hate groups aren't already discussing how to misuse this law against police officers and vocal conservatives, they will be before long.

 

[j_h_smith]

I'd wager if the antifa freaks and the rest of the social justice hate groups aren't already discussing how to misuse this law against police officers and vocal conservatives, they will be before long.

That's been the plan all along. They had their targets set up before most of these Bills hits the floors of each state legislature.


Sit back and watch the show.

 

[ddeanjohnson]

Respondent can't have ammo in possession - I assume that means reloading presses and components since that would be constructive possession...Will police be removing the presses and reloading components also?

The ERPOs will apply to "firearms" and "ammunition," defined (by cross-references in the bill) as follows:

"Firearm" means: (i) a weapon that expels, is designed to expel, or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; or (ii) the frame or receiver of such a weapon. (2) "Firearm" includes a starter gun.​

Ammunition defined (a) In this section, "ammunition" means a cartridge, shell, or any other device containing explosive or incendiary material designed and intended for use in a firearm.​

Primers, or empty cartridges with primers inserted, likely would be considered devices that contain incendiary material and are intended "for use in a firearm," and therefore would be included. A press and other machines used to prepare cartridges, etc, do not meet the definition.

 

[frogman68]

The Gov has 30 days

Thought since it's an election year it was only 6 days? Or is that while they are in session only???

 

[ddeanjohnson]

Thought since it's an election year it was only 6 days? Or is that while they are in session only???

If a bill is presented to the governor during the first 83 days of the legislative session, the governor has only 6 days (not including Sunday) to act before the bill automatically becomes law. However, any bill presented in the last 7 days of the 90-day session or after adjournment, which is the case with respect to HB 1302, must be acted on within 30 days of being formally presented to the governor. The "presentment" must occur within 20 days of the end of the session, which is to say, by about the end of April.

 

[ironpony]

So I am working and say "Hey Siri, send JT a message that I'm going to go shoot some pool" Send.
JT says "OK, I have a shovel but need more lime"
confused and looking at what I sent, Siri thought I said "shoot some fool" fake news actually but

I'm thinking a text may be enough to talk a Judge into an ERPO? Can I borrow your phone for a minute .. my battery is dead ... honey...

 

[Engine4]

I hope Hogan isn't conferring with his fellow GOP governors.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/12/protesters-heckle-traitor-vermont-gop-gov-phil-scott-after-state-enacts-unprecedented-gun-control-legislation.html

 

[j_h_smith]

So I am working and say "Hey Siri, send JT a message that I'm going to go shoot some pool" Send.
JT says "OK, I have a shovel but need more lime"
confused and looking at what I sent, Siri thought I said "shoot some fool" fake news actually but

I'm thinking a text may be enough to talk a Judge into an ERPO? Can I borrow your phone for a minute .. my battery is dead ... honey...

The frightening part to the Bill, is that it is so open ended, who knows what would set off an ERPO. Who knows? I doubt that anyone knows at this point.

 

[iH8DemLibz]

So I am working and say "Hey Siri, send JT a message that I'm going to go shoot some pool" Send.
JT says "OK, I have a shovel but need more lime"
confused and looking at what I sent, Siri thought I said "shoot some fool" fake news actually but

I'm thinking a text may be enough to talk a Judge into an ERPO? Can I borrow your phone for a minute .. my battery is dead ... honey...

Florida, I believe, has designed a Red Flag phone app. The "Students" had a lot to do with its development.

So every gun grabbing idiot can monitor every word said by every one.

If they SUSPECT someone has a made threat, they can use the app to bring the suspected threat to attention of the authoritah. Instant 1302ed.

We're in a place I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. Luckily humans can compartmentalize. Or folks would dwell on scary garbage like this 24/7/365.