Gun Bill Hearings Play-by-Play

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Glass running 2 min video of a father cuffed up on the side of the road because officers used a permit to make a traffic stop.

 

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Shannon Alford of the NRA back up at the witness table with Andi Moroney

Alford: HB464, by Del Rey, is a the best tool to allow an out-of-state resident to defend themselves in MD with home state permits which will help tourism.

Allford: HB842 is good because no veterans should have to have training to exercise a fundamental right.

 

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Panel now giving testimony in support of 2A friendly bills

 

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John Jocelyn of AGC up:

 

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Jocelyn: notes we often have a higher crime rate than the states where visitors are coming from. That permit holders in other states are not inferior with regard to being honorable citizens and should be treated on par with MD permit holders.

 

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Jocelyn: all permit holders in all states "act responsibly"... Reciprocity should be encouraged. As for the HQL: seconding request that veterans training be recognized and exempted

 

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Jocelyn: all permit holders in all states "act responsibly"... Reciprocity should be encouraged. As for the HQL: seconding request that veterans training be recognized and exempted

I really hope 842 passes...

 

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complete disdain... What a shock...

Pretty much. I see about half of the chairs empty

 

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Andi Morony, MD State Rifle and Pistol Association: HB464 reciprocity should be accepted without change.

 

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Visitor seated section is still full. Many standing as well

 

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Dan Blasberg, dblas (MSI) up...noting that regularly PA and VA travelers made felons because they are inadvertantly carrying when stopped over the MD line.

 

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dblas: also all veterans, honorably discharged should qualify for training exemption because training is the same as for retired military.

 

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Dan Blasberg FYI

 

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Shannon Alford: "I do not feel safe in MD because there are people who do not like what I do and it is a really uncomfortable feeling when I come to MD to VA that I am obligated to watch my back only 45 minutes from where I live..."

 

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thanks fixed

 

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ATF statement

http://www.atf.gov/press/releases/2...-piercing-ammunition-exemption-framework.html

 

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Alford: asking acceptance for the permit period of 5 years as reasonable and helpful

 

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John Jocelyn: "we cannot use deadly force in defense of money. To defend yourself is the only reason...In MD we look at it backward...we need to reexamine why carry permits are in place because "self defense" of family is the reason, not property protection."

 

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Andi Morony: HB743 a "no brainer" to remove live training every 2 years for permits, and substitute online refresher.

 

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dblas: " we agree...HB432 removing Good & Substantial as not being defined. MSP was here 2 years ago and they lied...MSP says they know it when they see it...."

Now describing Tim Montoya's battle to get a permit as an Independent contractor versus real estate employee.

dablas G&S "needs to go...where is it defined.?"