Getting tired of losing

[sabreman61]

I am actually not a Hogan fan. In my opinion, he should have overturned the Assault weapons ban and made MD a shall issue state. I wasn’t living in MD when he was elected. I liked Ehrlich though.

Powell is also not a Conservative. I would not support him either. I would also be highly suspect of Ehrlich. They would all be Uniparty.

 

[outrider58]

The left NEVER tires. We mustn't either. A setback is not a loss. It is a setback. The left will always march on...


As long as there two people left on this planet, there will be opposition.

 

[Biggfoot44]

On 12/ 15/ 2021 , we will long for the good old days of 2020 .

 

[[Kev308]]

All I know is that I bought LEGAL hunks of earth materials and now they are mine forever. Don't really care what happens outside of my autonomous zone.

 

[MDFF2008]

The Party that JaeLess hypothetically describes already exists . I tout them vigorously every time anyone here mentions writing in their father , or Mickey Mouse . I give them money . I usually vote for them .

But they dither , navel gaze , and shoot themselves in the foot way more than the GOP .

Yeah. Libertarians are their own worst enemy.

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[rascal]

Yeah. Libertarians are their own worst enemy.
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I aligned about 80% with libertarian, somewhat more than with GOP.
BUT as far as I am concerned, anyone who cares about second amendment rights and who pulls the lever for libertarian in presidential election, or statewide office, where state is purple (competitive between GOP and Dem) , federal congressional district where their district is is purple, or state house district where it is purple, is an idiot.

Also the current libertarian party is generally against any immigration control whatsoever, it is 100% open borders anyone and everyone can come; and is nowhere near as supportive of the Second Amendment as they imply.

 

[MDFF2008]

I would like to support open borders. I do believe people should be able to live where they want, and try living in different places. I'd love to live in other parts of the world for a while. That said, and what Libertarians miss, is that for that freedom, there is a price to pay and that price is that I am on my own. I can have no expectation of help from the government in the form of social services or programs. Private charities can, of course, chose to help, but help cannot be expected. That's the problem, open borders and a welfare state cannot co-exist.

 

[outrider58]

Libertarianism in its purest form, is just a fancy word for anarchy, IMO.

 

[Doctor_M]

I honestly think the best hope for conservatives is to fragment the Democrat party. It is only held together with duct tape and bailing wire as it is. There are at least three or four distinct groups within the "big tent" Democrat party. The Socialist AOC wing, the Communist BLM/Antifa wing, the MLK/LGBTQlmnop "oppressed minority" wing, and the Biden traditional white liberal wing. There are overlaps of course, but each of these groups has distinct agendas and to some extent are distrustful of each other and are jockeying for power positions. If we can help ratchet the heat, and bring the party to a boil, the possibility of one of more of those groups going hard core third party, will be our best path to victory. If we splinter the whole thing, we are looking at conservative victory for the next 20 years. Their alliance is close to cracking already. Just need to make each see the others as competitors and not allies.

 

[sabreman61]

I honestly think the best hope for conservatives is to fragment the Democrat party. It is only held together with duct tape and bailing wire as it is. There are at least three or four distinct groups within the "big tent" Democrat party. The Socialist AOC wing, the Communist BLM/Antifa wing, the MLK/LGBTQlmnop "oppressed minority" wing, and the Biden traditional white liberal wing. There are overlaps of course, but each of these groups has distinct agendas and to some extent are distrustful of each other and are jockeying for power positions. If we can help ratchet the heat, and bring the party to a boil, the possibility of one of more of those groups going hard core third party, will be our best path to victory. If we splinter the whole thing, we are looking at conservative victory for the next 20 years. Their alliance is close to cracking already. Just need to make each see the others as competitors and not allies.

I don't think there is such a thing anymore as the traditional white liberal wing. If there is one it's minuscule. They all have Marxist tendencies. It's the same with government workers (Local, State, Federal). Also Biden is a puppet controlled by Progressives.

 

[Allen65]

I don't think there is such a thing anymore as the traditional white liberal wing. If there is one it's minuscule. They all have Marxist tendencies. It's the same with government workers (Local, State, Federal). Also Biden is a puppet controlled by Progressives.

I agree with Doc_M. I'm surrounded by Dems at work and with family, and I see some very deep schisms. The classical Liberal wing is alive and well, albeit aging. They aren't puppets of the Progressives, it's more the other way around because the Progressives are mostly young and naive, whereas the older Liberals have more political experience and the deviousness that comes with age and experience.

 

[daNattyFatty]

I agree with Doc_M. I'm surrounded by Dems at work and with family, and I see some very deep schisms. The classical Liberal wing is alive and well, albeit aging. They aren't puppets of the Progressives, it's more the other way around because the Progressives are mostly young and naive, whereas the older Liberals have more political experience and the deviousness that comes with age and experience.

I honestly think the best hope for conservatives is to fragment the Democrat party. It is only held together with duct tape and bailing wire as it is. There are at least three or four distinct groups within the "big tent" Democrat party. The Socialist AOC wing, the Communist BLM/Antifa wing, the MLK/LGBTQlmnop "oppressed minority" wing, and the Biden traditional white liberal wing. There are overlaps of course, but each of these groups has distinct agendas and to some extent are distrustful of each other and are jockeying for power positions. If we can help ratchet the heat, and bring the party to a boil, the possibility of one of more of those groups going hard core third party, will be our best path to victory. If we splinter the whole thing, we are looking at conservative victory for the next 20 years. Their alliance is close to cracking already. Just need to make each see the others as competitors and not allies.

I gotta agree too. It’s the only thing that can help the Repukeicans win again, as well as negate the massive fraud and cheating.


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[KingClown]

I don't think there is such a thing anymore as the traditional white liberal wing. If there is one it's minuscule. They all have Marxist tendencies. It's the same with government workers (Local, State, Federal). Also Biden is a puppet controlled by Progressives.

Hey Hey I am a gov worker and I am conservative so are some of my coworkers. We are the minority though

 

[Some Guy]

No, it keeps on going. It's just the food and production that stops.

Check Venezuela, Cuba, USSR, North Korea, for examples. Eventually the rulers allow some back-door entrepreneurial efforts to get hard currency for themselves. PRC is an example, as is present-day Russia.

The money hasn't run out in those places, yet. Venezuela, Cuba, NK, et al get support from PRC and other places (along with select elites getting currency from allowable "entrepreneurial" efforts, as you point out.)

PRC and the EU have strategic interests in funding other leftist states. PRC and the EU have enough money to subsidize Venezuela, Cuba and many other leftist states. If PRC goes down many other leftist states will follow.

As long as governments in leftist states get money from the local shakedowns or international subsidies, they endure. When the money runs out, the support stops and the party ends. When the money ran out in Russia the USSR collapsed.

Fundamentally I think the US government, states, counties and municipalities are over-extended. Eventually they will run out of money. When they do the leftist shit show will stop.

 

[Muleskinner]

Get use to losing in the court.. here's my prediction..

1) both Georgia Senate seats are lost due to election fraud..

2) one of the first bills passed stacks the court with 4 new far left justices

3) DC and Puerto Rico are given statehood. This gives the senate four additional left-wing senators and the house several new left-wing representatives.

4) every challenge to gun control laws currently in the courts are denied a hearing in the supreme Court.

5) a flood of extreme gun control laws are passed banning possession of nearly everything semi-automatic, many types of optics on hunting guns, silencers, and concealed carry.

6) all are challenged, none are heard. The new and "improved" court even strikes down Heller. You are no longer have a right to keep a gun in your home. Many states, including Maryland make it a felony to use a gun to defend your home.

7) most gun owners stand in line for hours to hand over their now illegal guns .. because being law abiding is more important than your rights and freedom.

Extreme prediction? Maybe..but anyone with a brain realizes that gun control has nothing to do with public safety..the left knows they cannot turn the country into a socialist or communist society while a large portion of the population is well armed...

 

[rambling_one]

Hey Hey I am a gov worker and I am conservative so are some of my coworkers. We are the minority though

Yea, KC. Quite a broad brush was used in that post.

 

[Biggfoot44]

Today's political landscape has shifted enough , that old school Classical Liberal would now be a Moderate Conservative .

 

[[Kev308]]

Get use to losing in the court.. here's my prediction..

1) both Georgia Senate seats are lost due to election fraud..

2) one of the first bills passed stacks the court with 4 new far left justices

3) DC and Puerto Rico are given statehood. This gives the senate four additional left-wing senators and the house several new left-wing representatives.

4) every challenge to gun control laws currently in the courts are denied a hearing in the supreme Court.

5) a flood of extreme gun control laws are passed banning possession of nearly everything semi-automatic, many types of optics on hunting guns, silencers, and concealed carry.

6) all are challenged, none are heard. The new and "improved" court even strikes down Heller. You are no longer have a right to keep a gun in your home. Many states, including Maryland make it a felony to use a gun to defend your home.

7) most gun owners stand in line for hours to hand over their now illegal guns .. because being law abiding is more important than your rights and freedom.

Extreme prediction? Maybe..but anyone with a brain realizes that gun control has nothing to do with public safety..the left knows they cannot turn the country into a socialist or communist society while a large portion of the population is well armed...

GA will be lost because republicans will refuse to stand up to corruption and voters will let them sink and drown. The courts will be packed, citizens of red states will be sick of the corruption of the federal government, and states will begin to ignore federal laws imposed on their populace. We will begin moving to these sanctaury states and hopefully the country peaceably splits and the federal government is dissolved.

 

[tjaw]

Existential Threat...

Hey Hey I am a gov worker and I am conservative so are some of my coworkers. We are the minority though

I am a gummint worked and an educator (second job). I stand by my core beliefs, and always will. I am a pariah in those occupations.

I am an Endowment, or Patron, or whatever, long-time NRA member. I really loved the "Stand and Fight" that NRA posited some years ago.

I am a Constitutionalist, and love the *true* history of our country. That history is being deleted.

Our rulers are coming after our guns. Molon Labe? Really? This is an Existential Threat to me (and by extension, my family). Do I take the Stand and Fight to that n-th degree, and refuse to surrender my arms when gummint comes to collect them? I would lose both of my gummint jobs. My wife, son, grandson suffer from my decision to fight?

I am not asking for advice. I am such a strongly 2A person, that I suspect my personal decision when the time comes will be a game-time decision.

 

[JaeLess]

Here is a interesting article to read. Granted, it is on Vice which is a mouthpiece for the left, but it is an interesting read. I couldn’t get the hyperlink to work, so cut and paste it into your browser to read it...
https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjp48x/is-the-us-already-in-a-new-civil-war