Florida Senate expected to pass bill raising age limit for rifles and shotguns

[Rab1515]

Got to be 21 to own a weapon? How's that work?
"(a)  The militia of the United States consists of all able-bodied males at least 17 years of age and, except as provided in section 313 of title 32 , under 45 years of age who are, or who have made a declaration of intention to become, citizens of the United States and of female citizens of the United States who are members of the National Guard.
US Code, Title 10, 311

Unfortunately I don't think that will help
Other wise we would have the 18/21 long gun/handgun rules now.

 

[Stagstalker]

They extend the session so they can study the ticker tape like wallstreet trading, justice goes to the highest bidder rather than consider the highest laws of the land. Its whats trendy.....

 

[danb]

I got the following from Florida Carry: The Governor is threatening a line item veto of this bill to strip out pro-gun-rights provisions.

"Oppose SB 7026 - Public Safety"

larry.ahern@myfloridahouse.gov
ben.albritton@myfloridahouse.gov
thad.altman@myfloridahouse.gov
brian.avila@myfloridahouse.gov
halsey.beshears@myfloridahouse.gov
michael.bileca@myfloridahouse.gov
jim.boyd@myfloridahouse.gov
jason.brodeur@myfloridahouse.gov
daniel.burgess@myfloridahouse.gov
colleen.burton@myfloridahouse.gov
cord.byrd@myfloridahouse.gov
matt.caldwell@myfloridahouse.gov
charles.clemons@myfloridahouse.gov
richard.corcoran@myfloridahouse.gov
robert.cortes@myfloridahouse.gov
travis.cummings@myfloridahouse.gov
jose.diaz@myfloridahouse.gov
manny.diaz@myfloridahouse.gov
byron.donalds@myfloridahouse.gov
brad.drake@myfloridahouse.gov
jay.fant@myfloridahouse.gov
randy.fine@myfloridahouse.gov
jason.fischer@myfloridahouse.gov
heather.fitzenhagen@myfloridahouse.gov
julio.gonzalez@myfloridahouse.gov
tom.goodson@myfloridahouse.gov
erin.grall@myfloridahouse.gov
james.grant@myfloridahouse.gov
michael.grant@myfloridahouse.gov
joe.gruters@myfloridahouse.gov
bill.hager@myfloridahouse.gov
gayle.harrell@myfloridahouse.gov
shawn.harrison@myfloridahouse.gov
blaise.ingoglia@myfloridahouse.gov
clay.ingram@myfloridahouse.gov
sam.killebrew@myfloridahouse.gov
mike.larosa@myfloridahouse.gov
chris.latvala@myfloridahouse.gov
thomas.leek@myfloridahouse.gov
marylynn.magar@myfloridahouse.gov
amber.mariano@myfloridahouse.gov
ralph.massullo@myfloridahouse.gov
stan.mcclain@myfloridahouse.gov
larry.metz@myfloridahouse.gov
mike.miller@myfloridahouse.gov
george.moraitis@myfloridahouse.gov
jeanette.nunez@myfloridahouse.gov
jose.oliva@myfloridahouse.gov
bobby.payne@myfloridahouse.gov
kathleen.peters@myfloridahouse.gov
cary.pigman@myfloridahouse.gov
scott.plakon@myfloridahouse.gov
rene.plasencia@myfloridahouse.gov
mel.ponder@myfloridahouse.gov
elizabeth.porter@myfloridahouse.gov
jake.raburn@myfloridahouse.gov
holly.raschein@myfloridahouse.gov
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ray.rodrigues@myfloridahouse.gov
bob.rommel@myfloridahouse.gov
rick.roth@myfloridahouse.gov
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ross.spano@myfloridahouse.gov
chris.sprowls@myfloridahouse.gov
cyndi.stevenson@myfloridahouse.gov
charlie.stone@myfloridahouse.gov
jennifer.sullivan@myfloridahouse.gov
jackie.toledo@myfloridahouse.gov
carlos.trujillo@myfloridahouse.gov
jay.trumbull@myfloridahouse.gov
frank.white@myfloridahouse.gov
jayer.williamson@myfloridahouse.gov
yarborough.clay@myfloridahouse.gov
joseph.abruzzo@myfloridahouse.gov
ramon.alexander@myfloridahouse.gov
bruce.antone@myfloridahouse.gov
robert.asencio@myfloridahouse.gov
loranne.ausley@myfloridahouse.gov
lori.berman@myfloridahouse.gov
kamia.brown@myfloridahouse.gov
john.cortes@myfloridahouse.gov
janet.cruz@myfloridahouse.gov
kimberly.daniels@myfloridahouse.gov
tracie.davis@myfloridahouse.gov
ben.diamond@myfloridahouse.gov
bobby.dubose@myfloridahouse.gov
nicholas.duran@myfloridahouse.gov
katie.edwards@myfloridahouse.gov
joseph.geller@myfloridahouse.gov
margret.good@myfloridahouse.gov
roy.hardemon@myfloridahouse.gov
patrick.henry@myfloridahouse.gov
kristin.jacobs@myfloridahouse.gov
al.jacquet@myfloridahouse.gov
evan.jenne@myfloridahouse.gov
shevrin.jones@myfloridahouse.gov
larry.lee@myfloridahouse.gov
kionne.mcghee@myfloridahouse.gov
amy.mercado@myfloridahouse.gov
jared.moskowitz@myfloridahouse.gov
wengay.newton@myfloridahouse.gov
sharon.pritchett@myfloridahouse.gov
david.richardson@myfloridahouse.gov
barrington.russell@myfloridahouse.gov
sean.shaw@myfloridahouse.gov
david.silvers@myfloridahouse.gov
emily.slosberg@myfloridahouse.gov
carlos.smith@myfloridahouse.gov
cynthia.stafford@myfloridahouse.gov
richard.stark@myfloridahouse.gov
barbara.watson@myfloridahouse.gov
clovis.watson@myfloridahouse.gov
matt.willhite@myfloridahouse.gov
patricia.williams@myfloridahouse.gov

 

[Rab1515]

I didn't know that was a thing.

 

[press1280]

Very dangerous to mix pro and anti gun bills together in a state where the Governor can line item veto what he wants.

 

[MDFF2008]

Federally unconstitutional, but some state constitutions allow it.

 

[danb]

Very dangerous to mix pro and anti gun bills together in a state where the Governor can line item veto what he wants.

I did not realize that they did this until I read this article. Florida House really needs to fail this bill.

 

[LaddyBoy]

There is a 20 year old man in Florida who is taking on 'dicks' and 'walmart' for not selling him a 10/22 rifle. The State law still says 21 years of age. I hope he succeeds in his law suit against these Anti-American companies. They both have lost any purchases from me or mine. They need to be BOYCOTTED!

 

[danb]

Democrats voted to oppose this bill, which means Republicans providing the votes to pass this and are voting for gun control

 

[chooks9]

Democrats voted to oppose this bill, which means Republicans providing the votes to pass this and are voting for gun control

They are not going to have a job come next election. Their base will abandon them and the progressives/liberals won't vote for them because emotions. Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.

 

[danb]

They are not going to have a job come next election. Their base will abandon them and the progressives/liberals won't vote for them because emotions. Nothing like shooting yourself in the foot.

More like the head, not the foot.

 

[copasetic]

As someone who grew up in Florida, this makes me really sad to say the least

 

[swinokur]

Maybe a court challenge?

 

[danb]

I just cannot believe Republicans in FL are going to pass gun control and ban rifles for 18-21 yr olds without Dem support. This is monumentally stupid. Democrat voters snd independents disposed to gun control vote Dem and are not going to reward Republicans by switching. Republicans and independents disposed to be pro-2A are going to stay away or cast protest votes. Its a lose-lose for Republicans.

They will wake up Friday when the smoke clears and realize how stupid this was.

 

[Mr H]

More like the head, not the foot.

For a politician, that's not a lot to worry about.

 

[danb]

For a politician, that's not a lot to worry about.

You're right, maybe I should have said ass.

 

[danb]

Passed house 67-50.

Gov Scott said he will sign it. 31 Dems opposed it, 10 voted for it. 57 Republicans voted for it.

 

[clandestine]

This Bill will BAN Aftermarket Triggers. This is the Text.

790.222 Bump-fire stocks prohibited.—A person may not
737 import into this state or transfer, distribute, sell, keep for
738 sale, offer for sale, possess, or give to another person a bump
739 fire stock. A person who violates this section commits a felony
740 of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s.
741 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, the term “bump
742 fire stock” means a conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or a
743 device used to alter the rate of fire of a firearm to mimic
744 automatic weapon fire or which is used to increase the rate of
745 fire to a faster rate than is possible for a person to fire such
746 semiautomatic firearm unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory,
747 or a device.


Bump stocks
Crank fire devices
Binary triggers
3 gun triggers (Geissele and LaRue, among others, makes a wide variety)
Lightweight bolt carrier groups
Buffer springs and different buffer weights
Gas system length
Adjustable Gas blocks
TRANSFERABLE / REGISTERED Lightening Link (The host remains semi, the LL is the MG)
TRANSFERABLE / REGISTERED DIAS (Yhe host remains semi, the RDIAS is the MG)
TRANSFERABLE / REGISTERED HK Sears and trigger packs (The host remains semi, the sear or pack is the MG)
TRANSFERABLE / REGISTERED FNC Sears (The host remains semi, the sear is the MG)

 

[JaegerJason]

Also Violates Due Process

Don't think it's been mentioned here- the Florida bill violates the 5th and 14th Amendment requirement for due process, and 2nd Amendment rights in myriad ways, by depriving those who have not been convicted of the right to bear arms. It gives the right for the state to remove a suspect's guns, and forces the suspect to then prove that the suspect is not a threat. Guilty until proven innocent. https://patriotgunnews.com/2018/03/...iscation-gov-says-he-will-veto-pro-gun-parts/
and:

2. The respondent shall have the burden of proving by a preponderance of the evidence that the respondent does not pose a significant danger of causing personal injury to self or others by having in his or her custody or control, purchasing, possessing, or receiving a firearm. The court may consider any relevant evidence, including evidence of the considerations listed in paragraph (3)(c).

 

[zoostation]

I just cannot believe Republicans in FL are going to pass gun control and ban rifles for 18-21 yr olds without Dem support. This is monumentally stupid. Democrat voters snd independents disposed to gun control vote Dem and are not going to reward Republicans by switching. Republicans and independents disposed to be pro-2A are going to stay away or cast protest votes. Its a lose-lose for Republicans.

They will wake up Friday when the smoke clears and realize how stupid this was.

Monumentally stupid is exactly the phrase for it. And they've not only hurt themselves but the entire national Republican Party. As seen on this forum, gun owners across the country are taking notice and are not happy with a party they once considered an ally. The democrats played them like a harp. Machiavelli couldn't have planned it any better. Dems just sat back, used the armed teachers facet as an excuse to vote no, and let the Republicans screw themselves.

In a few months, after the emotion has passed, no doubt the R's who supported this bill will be wondering wtf they were thinking and will be scrambling to kiss the 2A community's ass. And it won't work. Especially once people start hearing stories about 19 and 20 year old combat veterans at some of Florida's many military bases not being able to buy so much as a single shot duck gun. Stories I am sure the dems and their media allies will be happy to emphasize for the voters.

Congrats Florida Republican politicians. You just did the dems work for them and flipped the state to solid blue. Morons.