CMP Just Allowed a Second 1911

[Mike OTDP]

If you were considering a CMP 1911, they just put out the information for Round 4. They are now allowing people to apply for a second 1911. Details here.

The application window will close at the end of September. The same PITA process, too. It's still collector pricing - if you want a shooter, there are cheaper options on the commercial market. But CMP has never overpriced their guns.

 

[SigFan]

I saw that earlier today, I got one this year so I have to sit this one out, no fun.

SigFan

 

[Blacksmith101]

Thank you for the heads up! One can never have too many 1911's.

 

[gwchem]

I don't understand the cmp 1911 appeal. Garands, sure, no one has made those. But there are so many better 1911s produced commercially, and the ones being sold through cmp don't seem like anything to collect.

 

[ohen cepel]

If the CMP and md didn't make it such a hassle I would have bought one. For the feds to ignore a C&R license, which comes from the feds, is just idiotic and drives up the cost as I have to pay a transfer fee which I should not have to do.

 

[somd_mustangs]

... and wait 7 days, and "register" it.

 

[somd_mustangs]

I don't understand the cmp 1911 appeal. Garands, sure, no one has made those. But there are so many better 1911s produced commercially, and the ones being sold through cmp don't seem like anything to collect.

On the other hand, if CMP wasn't offering these, they would no doubt be destroyed. It's a lot cheaper way to get a military-issue 1911. Not my cup of tea (I'd rather have an all-original) but it does satisfy a need or they wouldn't be selling. The whole "luck of the draw" lacks appeal to me also. I'm guessing that the demand has dropped off significantly (Round 3 extended, and now allowing a 2nd one).

 

[rseymorejr]

On the other hand, if CMP wasn't offering these, they would no doubt be destroyed. It's a lot cheaper way to get a military-issue 1911. Not my cup of tea (I'd rather have an all-original) but it does satisfy a need or they wouldn't be selling. The whole "luck of the draw" lacks appeal to me also. I'm guessing that the demand has dropped off significantly (Round 3 extended, and now allowing a 2nd one).

It's a worthwhile program just to prevent the government from destroying them

 

[Lafayette]

Got one this year; i have to say I’ve been pretty happy with it. Mine seems unmolested (for the most part) and the price was reasonable. It’s nice to have a piece of history and serve as a caretaker of it until the next generation can appreciate it.

If I were eligible for another this year I would grab one so I have another to pass on to my second son.

 

[ken792]

I don't understand the cmp 1911 appeal. Garands, sure, no one has made those. But there are so many better 1911s produced commercially, and the ones being sold through cmp don't seem like anything to collect.

I don’t know anyone specifically buying them to be heavy use shooters. The 70s and 80s rebuild marked 1911s are collectible just like 60s rebuild marked Garands have gotten in the past few years. Those late rebuild variations of 1911s from Anniston, Albany, and Barstow were previously nonexistent on the market.

FOIA requests turn up some with USMC and US Special Forces provenance, which have decent collector followings. I’ve seen a few people specifically desiring Navy provenance too.

Some people have gotten original finish and/or correct and original parts guns. The price certainly comes/came in under what a similar example is on the open market.

 

[Hibs]

I saw that earlier today, I got one this year so I have to sit this one out, no fun.

SigFan

Damn, me too!

 

[303_enfield]

I don't understand the cmp 1911 appeal. Garands, sure, no one has made those. But there are so many better 1911s produced commercially, and the ones being sold through cmp don't seem like anything to collect.

So, you never Served? My old a$$ did, carrying a 1911(A1) around the world. While the M1 did serve on two-way ranges 1941-1965ish (Navy used some much later). The 1911 served earlier and longer.
Maybe I'll get lucky and get one I carried or Dad's or Granddad's.

Yes, if you don't want real history, you can buy a $400 Philippine made one. An Garands have been made (cast) by recent manufactures.

 

[calicojack]

Ok - so this just cost me another $1K

 

[gwchem]

So, you never Served? My old a$$ did, carrying a 1911(A1) around the world. While the M1 did serve on two-way ranges 1941-1965ish (Navy used some much later). The 1911 served earlier and longer.
Maybe I'll get lucky and get one I carried or Dad's or Granddad's.

Yes, if you don't want real history, you can buy a $400 Philippine made one. An Garands have been made (cast) by recent manufactures.

No, I didn't serve, and no, I don't understand keeping history, personally. I guess that's more the question, why spend money on a chance it would be related to you, and instead get a really nice one that not only reminds you of your service but also has value as a shooter.

My generation doesn't collect anything. I've been fighting against many attempts to fill my house with "history" from people you're age, who collected all this stuff, then just let it collect dust. Just having trouble wrapping my head around the nostalgia.

 

[tdt91]

I wouldn't mind having one and have all the docs to provide the proof needed. That said it sure seems like a PITA to put an application together and maybe not even get a draw. I sent in papers years ago when they had a draw for a Carbine. I didn't get picked and I really wanted one. I think I'll pass on this and spend the cash if I choose to on a new fishing sonar unit like the Humminbird 360

 

[rseymorejr]

No, I didn't serve, and no, I don't understand keeping history, personally. I guess that's more the question, why spend money on a chance it would be related to you, and instead get a really nice one that not only reminds you of your service but also has value as a shooter.

My generation doesn't collect anything. I've been fighting against many attempts to fill my house with "history" from people you're age, who collected all this stuff, then just let it collect dust. Just having trouble wrapping my head around the nostalgia.

Either you get it or you don't.
It's all good either way.

 

[Lafayette]

No, I didn't serve, and no, I don't understand keeping history, personally. I guess that's more the question, why spend money on a chance it would be related to you, and instead get a really nice one that not only reminds you of your service but also has value as a shooter.

My generation doesn't collect anything. I've been fighting against many attempts to fill my house with "history" from people you're age, who collected all this stuff, then just let it collect dust. Just having trouble wrapping my head around the nostalgia.

Everyone has their own perspective on history. One man’s trash is another’s treasure, I suppose.

I look at artifacts as touchstones to an era or a particular point in time that brings that history back to life in some tangible way. I figure those that forget history are bound to repeat it for better or worse. Sure some things have more impact than others…I will never forget holding a daguerreotype of my great-great-great-great grandfather from 1848, walking through the Holocaust museum and seeing the shoes, or seeing my great-great-grandfather’s house in Peshtigo, Wisconsin - one of the only structures to survive the firestorm that killed more than the Chicago fire (which happened the same night.)

Thing is you never know what item no matter how insignificant will affect you or a future generation. Deciding what trash to keep and what to throw out is a struggle, isn’t it?

 

[ken792]

No, I didn't serve, and no, I don't understand keeping history, personally. I guess that's more the question, why spend money on a chance it would be related to you, and instead get a really nice one that not only reminds you of your service but also has value as a shooter.

My generation doesn't collect anything. I've been fighting against many attempts to fill my house with "history" from people you're age, who collected all this stuff, then just let it collect dust. Just having trouble wrapping my head around the nostalgia.

Collecting vs. not collecting is not really a strictly generational thing at this point though. What each generation chooses to collect is different.

If you’re referring to millennials and zoomers, our peers like GWOT M4s, KAC, FALs, H&Ks, and combloc collecting right now.

 

[somd_mustangs]

I wouldn't mind having one and have all the docs to provide the proof needed. That said it sure seems like a PITA to put an application together and maybe not even get a draw. I sent in papers years ago when they had a draw for a Carbine. I didn't get picked and I really wanted one. I think I'll pass on this and spend the cash if I choose to on a new fishing sonar unit like the Humminbird 360

I'm with you on the PITA factor, but I think there's a 99.9% chance if you submit the application, you'll get one.

 

[Trepang]

I love MilSurps and I guess you could say the mystery that goes along with them.

Holding a CMP 1911A1, Japanese Nambu, German PP, etc.. and just wondering where it may have been, who else has held it and what that gun may have done fascinates me.

The CMP sales is the only way I know of to get an actual, Govt issued, 1911A1 without giving up a kidney.

As for shooting 1911's, I have a new Springfield MilSpec for that.