AWB 2018 and grandfathering

[danb]

Nobody with any common sense thinks the left will stop at anything other than a complete confiscation of all privately owned firearms.

I disagree. Some people seem to think so, or that the ban for 18-21 year olds will end there. Until you see the full on ban with 146 co sponsors, people dont believe it.

 

[Peacefuloutrage]

We don't need it IF and only if we actually institutionalize our crazies and sociopaths. Right now, we don't.

The laws don't stop anyone. They only serve as a punitive measure once a crime has been commited. Instead of depriving people of thier civil rights that effort can be directed into helping people to gain the knowledge and skills to defend themselves and also to help those who need assistance to get their lives in order before they harm themselves or others. We already have tons of laws already on the books that prosecutors refuse to employ.

**edit** That being said, why aren't the prosecutors actually holding dangerous people accountable instead of harlemss people?

 

[Boondock Saint]

I disagree. Some people seem to think so, or that the ban for 18-21 year olds will end there. Until you see the full on ban with 146 co sponsors, people dont believe it.

So might I ask again, if we know that confiscation is the end game, why in the hell would we voluntarily bargain away anything related to 2A? Are we just trying to keep the water from boiling while we're alive? Our children? Perhaps their children?

Not one inch. Molon labe.

 

[GlocksAndPatriots]

The same people who are concerned about over-incarceration want to punish everyone else for the consequence. We let criminals go free all the time, for various reasons, and more than half (that we know of) re-offend.

Fine, don't want crazies and criminals incarcerated, I have no problem with that. But don't punish law abiding people by taking away their rights.

I never argued otherwise. Glad we're in agreement here.

 

[GlocksAndPatriots]

I disagree. Some people seem to think so, or that the ban for 18-21 year olds will end there. Until you see the full on ban with 146 co sponsors, people dont believe it.

The fact that "high capacity" magazine has dropped from 15 to 10, then to 7 in New York, and now 5 is being proposed in NJ, should disabuse anyone of that notion.

 

[GlocksAndPatriots]

The laws don't stop anyone. They only serve as a punitive measure once a crime has been commited. Instead of depriving people of thier civil rights that effort can be directed into helping people to gain the knowledge and skills to defend themselves and also to help those who need assistance to get their lives in order before they harm themselves or others. We already have tons of laws already on the books that prosecutors refuse to employ.

**edit** That being said, why aren't the prosecutors actually holding dangerous people accountable instead of harlemss people?

With respect to criminals, I agree. But the laws have intentionally made it VERY difficult to institutionalize people. It needs to be much easier.

 

[eruby]

With respect to criminals, I agree. But the laws have intentionally made it VERY difficult to institutionalize people. It needs to be much easier.

The Titicut Follies weep.

Or snicker.

 

[Boom Boom]

Actually, also a lot of semi shotguns too. "more than 5 rounds" is relative to the length of shell.

BANNED

Ahem. Semi-auto shotguns are semi-auto long guns.

 

[DubTap21]

So might I ask again, if we know that confiscation is the end game, why in the hell would we voluntarily bargain away anything related to 2A? Are we just trying to keep the water from boiling while we're alive? Our children? Perhaps their children?

Not one inch. Molon labe.

Amen to that.

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[Rack&Roll]

Just turn the page for my best sociopathic post of the day...

 

[Boom Boom]

Look no further than Bloomberg-funded "studies" identifying people as mentally ill for simply wanting to buy/own guns.

 

[BradMacc82]

Look no further than Bloomberg-funded "studies" identifying people as mentally ill for simply wanting to buy/own guns.

And our own States AG with his well-known opinion of us.

 

[Rack&Roll]

Yes. Anyone who would have been institutionalized prior to the 70s should be reinstitutionalized, and added to the NICS database.

I'm more concerned with the real world, not the fantasy world you're living in.

I didn't say I want anything regulated at all. Jesus Christ, you people are as bad as the SJWs

Return to the system we had in the 1950s for forced institutionalization. Bring it back.

Yes, there was. All of those people would have been locked up in the past.

If there was grounds for a charge. My point is that he was mentally ill even if he hadn't committed any crimes, and should have been committed on that basis alone. We need to make it much easier to lock up crazy people.

Again, using the standards used prior to the 70s.

Honestly, I don't really care. If we lock up a schizophrenic or verifiable sociopath who isn't there to run around screaming on the subway and pushing people in front of trains, we're a better off society.

So we have to let schizoprehnics and bipolar people wreak havoc on society, screaming at people and themselves, and can't do anything until it's too late? No thanks.

Look, there are two ways to stop most mass shootings, you can either 1) confiscate all firearms or 2) lock up our sociopaths/schizophrenics. That's it. If you aren't willing to do either (and I'm not willing to do the first), then you're conceding that mass shootings have to be allowed to happen. I'm not willing to do that.

That's when I exercise my 2nd Amendment remedy.

Look, society has throughout history locked away its mentally ill. This isn't something novel.

By that (ridiculous) standard, denying gun ownership to violent felons is gun control too.

Right, not every schizophrenic will be violent, but society is still better off with them institutionalized. Even if they're not dangerous, they're annoying and disruptive.

Have you been on a NYC subway train with some random schizophrenic running around screaming? Schizophrenics shouldn't have any "rights" other than to be locked in a cage.

I'm not, which is why I moved to Florida.

We don't need it IF and only if we actually institutionalize our crazies and sociopaths. Right now, we don't.

With respect to criminals, I agree. But the laws have intentionally made it VERY difficult to institutionalize people. It needs to be much easier.

So here, on the open Internet is one if “us” who can’t stop talking about institutionalizing “sociopaths”, which every wife or girlfriend happily identifies all of us as...

Hell, I’m a sociopath for multi-quoting this ClocksAndPastries Poop Blizzard, so I guess I’m getting locked up.

If this is not thread-pooping that heaps disdain on MDS, I don’t knows what is.

Sociopath here....peace, out.

 

[Rack&Roll]

And while we’re at it...let’s rewind the videotape to August 29, 2016....

Hi everyone, I'm just stopping in to say hello. I don't live in Maryland, but am stuck in the People's Republic of NJ, where things are arguably worse. At what point do we stop litigating cases we won't win?

... which is why I moved to Florida.

Oh GREAT....a lawyer...from New Jersey...who won’t litigate.....so he’s a white flag waver who gives up on our rights... ..moves to Florida.... and nags us from his beach chair that we’re doing it wrong in Maryland...

THANKS OBAMA!

 

[MULE-JK]

Right, not every schizophrenic will be violent, but society is still better off with them institutionalized. Even if they're not dangerous, they're annoying and disruptive.

Be careful what you ask for. The fact that you have no empathy for menatlly ill people leads one to believe you are a scociopath.

Society is full of sociopaths. Most function just fine and are not dangerous.

 

[Boondock Saint]

And while we’re at it...let’s rewind the videotape to August 29, 2016....






Oh GREAT....a lawyer...from New Jersey...who won’t litigate, and so gives up on our rights....moves to Florida and nags us from his beach chair that we’re doing it wrong....

THANKS OBAMA!

Alright, that's funny.

 

[BradMacc82]

Rack just found himself another squeaky toy.

 

[clandestine]

I love RacknRoll

 

[Rack&Roll]

Actually, Chad takes the bow for adding to the funny with the link below....
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[Rab1515]

Rack just found himself another squeaky toy.

You sir just wrote my all time favorite post.