Arundel Mills Mall new Security K9

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  • scottyfz6

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    I think it would be funny to get a little perfume sprayer and fill it with hoppes. Walk around the mail leaving little puffs every where, maybe even small puddles that would get tracked around the whole mall.
     

    4g64loser

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    I think it would be funny to get a little perfume sprayer and fill it with hoppes. Walk around the mail leaving little puffs every where, maybe even small puddles that would get tracked around the whole mall.
    You'd probably have more luck with handfuls of spent cases from the brass bucket. Like fairy dust. Everywhere.
     

    scottyfz6

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    You'd probably have more luck with handfuls of spent cases from the brass bucket. Like fairy dust. Everywhere.
    A lot of the time dogs who are trained to look for guns, they use gun cleaning chemicals as the targets. like hoppes
     

    Mark75H

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    I'm thinking of the federal LEO population locally. The dog will be very busy.
    I think it would be funny to get a little perfume sprayer and fill it with hoppes. Walk around the mail leaving little puffs every where, maybe even small puddles that would get tracked around the whole mall.
    IDK if it is still active, but the mall HVAC system used to be pneumatic. If one opened a bottle of Hoppes in the right location, the whole mall would be detectable within an hour. We actually used vanilla to find a major leak in one of the air lines once.
     

    4g64loser

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    A lot of the time dogs who are trained to look for guns, they use gun cleaning chemicals as the targets. like hoppes
    Sometimes.

    I clean my carry guns with less aromatic shit anyway. Mainly so humans don't smell the chems.

    One of my former coworkers handles bite dogs but has regular contact with sniffers. They can be trained to indicate on just about anything. I'll have to ask him if he has ever heard of them hitting on EDTA based soap solutions.
     

    Biggfoot44

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    Do such trained dogs exist ? Yes

    Will such dogs actually be used by mall security ? Either ever , or on any semi regular basis ? I dunno , but my starting position is probably not , and I'd need to be convinced otherwise .

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    Meanwhile , what's the goal of " creative scent management " ? Is it to mask your Roscoe from being detected by the K-9s ? Or to provide so many false positives that the idea is scrapped ?
     

    K31

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    Jan 15, 2006
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    I predict this dog will indicate that many are carrying Mexican-style. By nuzzling the suspected offender's crotch.
     

    systemmaster

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    How do you know the K9 is trained in that? Or are you guessing?


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    Reliable source that I will not put out on a public forum.

    Any dog trained in explosives can do an article search for a firearm. This dog will likely indicate in a way not so obvious to the general public.
     

    rbird7282

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    Reliable source that I will not put out on a public forum.

    Any dog trained in explosives can do an article search for a firearm. This dog will likely indicate in a way not so obvious to the general public.

    Ok. Still not buying it but that’s JMO.
    I also don’t go inside Arundel Mills except for Bass Pro about once a year for fishing stuff.


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    teratos

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    If he is trained to smell the Devil's Cabbage, he's going to go insane....
     

    Allen65

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    Ok. Still not buying it but that’s JMO.
    I also don’t go inside Arundel Mills except for Bass Pro about once a year for fishing stuff.


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    It's not the metal of the gun that they're detecting. Dogs can be trained to signal on presence of nitrocelluose, and other smokeless powder ingredients. Both the firearm and cartridges will have detectable levels of that propellant residue on them.
     

    pop-gunner

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    May 8, 2008
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    I talked to one of these fellas a couple weeks ago.
    He was telling me the dog is trained to alert on cleaning chemicals used on firearms as well as gunpowder in ammunition.
    He stated that once the dog alerts he calls county police.
    He says the mall owner Simon Company has said only on duty law enforcement, or "three letter agencies" are allowed to have guns in the mall.
    When I explained Bass Pro allows carry he stated " oh I don't patrol in here"(he was there as a customer when I spoke to him).
    I asked him about the legal ramifications of what he was doing, and infringing on peoples rights he was confused.
    He then went on to tell me that last year at a mall in GA he had someone pull a "purple drako" on him.
    I asked him if that was a sex toy and walked away figuring I the 4 minutes I wasted with him had not made either of us smarter.
     

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