Anyone hold the barrel of a semiautomatic pistol while it's shot?

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  • Blaster229

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    Sep 14, 2010
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    Not the barrel, but behind the side to induce a failure. Sure. You need to know what goes on when that happens.

    But doing this is pretty stupid from a safety point of view.
     

    alucard0822

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    Oct 29, 2007
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    Could be a useful demonstration, basically expect 1 round and a malf, or nothing if it's bumped out of battery. Useful from a grappling standpoint if an untrained person points a handgun at contact distance. Useful for firearm defense if you make enough mistakes to end up in a position to "shoot them off the gun", you should expect a malf drill. That being said it's horribly dangerous for the whole class to do. Good chance of a hole in someone if the slide slips or someone doesn't see a leg or arm in line with the muzzle. Good chance of getting powder burns too. This is better done with a demonstration and blue gun practice.
     

    Phoenix_1295

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    Oct 6, 2010
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    I have never seen this in a firearms training class, but grabbing the slide is something we trained on in grapple and disarming training. The techniques we used allow you to control direction of muzzle and, if they fire, induces a malfunction preventing additional shots. (And the active grapple and disarming portion is with a blue gun.)
     
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    johnkn

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    Did anyone else come to this thread expecting a different result along with a guy being called “Lefty” the rest of his life?


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    chriskat

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    Nov 1, 2009
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    I don't think his insurance company would be very happy with him allowing his students to do that. Assuming he has an insurance company.
     

    ezracer

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    Jul 27, 2012
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    Behind enemy lines...
    Try it with a revolver. Ouch!!

    Revolver firing.PNG
     

    Mark75H

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    Sep 25, 2011
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    With the revolver, the ideal is to prevent the cylinder from moving Preventing it from firing even once.
    hammer cocked to single action doesn't need to rotate, it is already over the live chamber. You better be able to see that hammer
     

    BurtonRW

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    Oct 19, 2007
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    hammer cocked to single action doesn't need to rotate, it is already over the live chamber. You better be able to see that hammer
    I thought that’s when you try to jam the webbing between your thumb and hand between the hammer and the frame. I actually remember MacGyver (the real, original one) doing it with a wooden ruler in one episode.

    -Rob
     

    BFMIN

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    Nov 5, 2010
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    Again, "You'd have to be dead lucky, Princess"!
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    Its the revolver equivalent of pushing back on the slide of a 1911 type pistol hard enough to engage the OOB mechanisms, during a gunfight To prevent the hammer being released.
     
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    Mark75H

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    I thought that’s when you try to jam the webbing between your thumb and hand between the hammer and the frame. I actually remember MacGyver (the real, original one) doing it with a wooden ruler in one episode.

    -Rob
    Providing you chose quickly enough between double action stopping the cylinder from rotating and cocked to single action.
    I just wouldn't try it against a revolver. You don't have time to make the observation and decision.
     

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