1943 Mosin Sniper :D

[reverendbeer]

Also, am I all matching numbers between the parts? Especially the scope? It looks like I am but I'd like someone with more knowledge to say so.

Sorta. The bolt appears to match the receiver, but the scope mount is electropenciled and the magplate is restamped. Both of which were done during rearsenaling...The scope number appears to match the receiver's scope number...

As to rearselnaling, the [X], according to this, is a Ukrainian rearsenal mark.

And 7.62x54r.net is a bit jumbled; for more...orderly info on 91/30 snipers, try this.

 

[6pack]

Thanks reverendbeer and Boom Boom, good info!

 

[Ganegrei]

Sorry to "poach" a thread but i bought one of the same rifles also from Aimsurplus. Pics are below and I would appreciate any information folks might have.

Thanks!

 

[psoyring]

Nice converted SVT scope on that one.

 

[Melnic]

Nice converted SVT scope on that one.

What does that mean?
I noticed the shape of the occular end of the scope does not match that on the AIMSURPLUS.COM website. Is that from the refurb process?

 

[Chaunsey]

What does that mean?
I noticed the shape of the occular end of the scope does not match that on the AIMSURPLUS.COM website. Is that from the refurb process?

what he means is that it was original an SVT-40 scope and it was repurposed by the arsenal for a mosin PU.

its an interesting variation.

 

[6pack]

Sorry to "poach" a thread but i bought one of the same rifles also from Aimsurplus.

No problem G.

Sorry I couldn't join you Saturday. How did she shoot?

 

[Ganegrei]

Shot great! Bolt was sticking towards the end. Probably needs more oil. Like I said in the other thread sigting in the scope remains a mystery at the moment.

 

[Melnic]

Shot great! Bolt was sticking towards the end. Probably needs more oil. Like I said in the other thread sigting in the scope remains a mystery at the moment.

Your having trouble with hitting paper?
Getting it to hold zero?
Something else?

is the bolt sticking only when your opening the bolt after shooting, only when closing the bolt both?

 

[smdub]

Just a general Q: Are the snipers from AIM/etc typ numbers matching or not? Some I see on the web aren't matching anything (or force matched). Just wondering if that was 'the norm' in the rearsenal process for snipers.

 

[reverendbeer]

Sorry to "poach" a thread but i bought one of the same rifles also from Aimsurplus. Pics are below and I would appreciate any information folks might have.

1. Can we get a better pic of the side of the receiver? It looks like your original scope number was Xd out and restamped to match the SVT scope.
2. What's the serial on the bolt and on the bottom of the magplate?
4. Is there a number on the inside of the scope mount? If so, is it stamped or electropenciled?
5. As in (1), it looks like the receiver was restamped to match the scope.


Other stuffs: The square (on the receiver, over the Izhevsk arrow-in-triangle), is a rearsenal mark, same as the one on the scope (between the P and K)

It's an Izhevsk...as I said up there, the arrow-in-triangle is Izhevsk.

Neato Ubernerd point: You can see tell the restamps (the rearsenal mark, the new scope serial, the "C") due to their slight greyish tinge compared to the original markings (receiver serial, Izhevsk and Sov crests). Not sure if that's because of new bluing over exposed steel (exposed from the stamping) and old bluing, cold bluing applied directly to the new stamps, or something else...

 

[Ganegrei]

Your having trouble with hitting paper?
Getting it to hold zero?
Something else?

is the bolt sticking only when your opening the bolt after shooting, only when closing the bolt both?

Hitting paper.

Sticking on opening and closing, but it did not begin to stick until about 25-30 rounds had been fired. Specifically the sticking is happening on lifting (unlocking) and lowering (locking) the bolt handle. The bolt slides just fine.

 

[Melnic]

2 things I had to do to both my 91/30s was cleaning the chamber with a 20 gauge shotgun brush on a drill trick (look it up). and loosening the extractor pressure.

The extractor being too inward would make it hard to chamber the round, and would leave notches on the rim.
The gunk in the chamber made the empty round stick in the chamber and not come out easily. I have a post on the mosin section of gunboards where I was shown both of these.

EDIT: Here it is:
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?303364-Mosin-Sticky-Bolt

 

[psoyring]

What does that mean?
I noticed the shape of the occular end of the scope does not match that on the AIMSURPLUS.COM website. Is that from the refurb process?

No, not a refurb thing, if the occular side of the scope is larger it is a converted SVT scope.

 

[6pack]

No, not a refurb thing, if the occular side of the scope is larger it is a converted SVT scope.

Sorry, which side is the occular side? My scope has one side larger than the other.

 

[Melnic]

Occular is the side towards your eye.
Objective is the side towards your target.

 

[Melnic]

Mine came in.
Dark war time stock on it.
Force matched mag plate. Everything else matches. Nothing that does not match the product description of a re-arsinaled PU sniper.

Clarity of the scope is good. Here are pics of the scope.

 

[h2u]

Appears to be a wartime Izhevsk mount.

Mine came in.
Dark war time stock on it.
Force matched mag plate. Everything else matches. Nothing that does not match the product description of a re-arsinaled PU sniper.

Clarity of the scope is good. Here are pics of the scope.

 

[Melnic]

Finally cleaned it up this week and shot it today.
The bore was the cleanest of the now 3 Russian mosins I have. I guess I should expect that.
I only shot the Czech training 48g hollow core stuff through it so I won't judge the accuracy but at 50yds it was grouping pretty good. Much worse at 100 but I think it's the ammo and I was heating up the barrel cause I wanted to run some solvent patches while it was warm to clean it up some more. The barrel was not fully floating so I need to sand the inside of the stock some and then do the accurizing from smith sights. Trigger pull was over 5.5lbs so I can also work on that. It's a wartime stock so I'm thinking this is the original stock from this 1943Iz PU. Sorry for the poor pics, all I have right now.

I removed all the mount screws including the mount elevation screws. I could stand to adjust the elevation screws later cause my sight picture is at the upper 1/3 of the scope. Windage was smack dead on. I had to shoot at 50yds to get it on paper then move to 100yds. I hope to shoot it this week with both the Bulgarian and PPU rounds I have. And hopefully I will shoot a bit slower to keep that barrel from heating up.

 

[Ganegrei]

Had mine out today. Still cant figure out the scope. Need to put a target out at 25 yards and try again.