Bambi Whacking 2022-2023

[Ecestu]

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[Inigoes]

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She is sticking her tongue out at you!

 

[wpage]

Thats a deer with a death wish...

 

[Archeryrob]

Proposal being put forward to change region A to 1 buck and three does. A Biologist is saying to control CWD we need to kill more does than bucks and currently they still shoot more bucks than does.

Like it or hate it Allegany has a problem with it and its bleeding into Western Washington county

 

[CaptainAwesome]

Tonight, 140 degrees.......just saying

 

[Archeryrob]

I don't know anything about if it works, or if it does not. I just was informed it was being proposed.

 

[gwchem]

The only way to reduce CWD is less density of the deer population.

Shoot more Does to reduce the numbers. Stop feeding them, so they're not all licking the same corn pile and spreading it. That's why we can't bait in WVa.

 

[outrider58]

I don't know anything about if it works, or if it does not. I just was informed it was being proposed.

I've sifted through page of reports-pdfs and can't come up with anything contrasting with the practice of mass removal of deer in CWD areas, so, at this point, mass removal is the way apparently. There's just too much info to sort through.

 

[Archeryrob]

Well then, removing does is the best way to reduce the herd.

 

[BigCountry14]

I've sifted through page of reports-pdfs and can't come up with anything contrasting with the practice of mass removal of deer in CWD areas, so, at this point, mass removal is the way apparently. There's just too much info to sort through.

Except that there is also data that shows that dispersing bucks are key spreaders, but that involves shooting younger bucks, which goes against a lot of people's management goals.

 

[outrider58]

Except that there is also data that shows that dispersing bucks are key spreaders, but that involves shooting younger bucks, which goes against a lot of people's management goals.

Not only that, but you have to kill them all, indiscriminately. It takes up to a year and a half for signs of the disease to show up.

 

[remrug]

I saw a road killed fawn today. I'm sure it wont be the last

 

[Roscoe1]

My sister sent this from Sussex County DE this afternoon.

 

[Mr H]

I don't follow this like I probably should, but today we saw a young buck, with about 3-4" velvet spikes.

Not sure if this is early or what...

 

[308Scout]

I don't follow this like I probably should, but today we saw a young buck, with about 3-4" velvet spikes.

Not sure if this is early or what...

It's timely, they start growing new antlers right after they shed their last pair.

 

[remrug]

I don't follow this like I probably should, but today we saw a young buck, with about 3-4" velvet spikes.

Not sure if this is early or what...

I saw 2 bucks today. Both had 6-8 inch beams that looks like they are starting to split into more points. I watched through binos. They look like they are twins

 

[lazarus]

Proposal being put forward to change region A to 1 buck and three does. A Biologist is saying to control CWD we need to kill more does than bucks and currently they still shoot more bucks than does.

Like it or hate it Allegany has a problem with it and its bleeding into Western Washington county

Honestly what would likely have a lot more success there is just opening up antleress days to the more than 2 days per season on public lands, and what is it, 3 days per season on private? I have no idea what the success rate is like with that, but I'd imagine if you have 2 bucks per year, 1 in any season, and 3 does a year, 1 in any season, but a lot more antleress days, there would be a lot more hunters hitting those quotas.

Or heck, as unexciting as it is, make a bonus doe tag for region A. Free, just apply for it. One extra doe in any weapon season. Just spitballing.

 

[lazarus]

Not only that, but you have to kill them all, indiscriminately. It takes up to a year and a half for signs of the disease to show up.

And on top of that, you have to keep the population down for awhile. The prions are persistent in the environment for a long time. Now, dispersed so it isn't all that likely any given deer would contact extant prions. But my limited understanding is you'd really want to depress population levels but a large amount for several seasons to have a good likelihood of significantly reducing it.

Of all the various hebbie jebbies out there like ebola, marburg, cancer, necrotizing fasciitis, MRSA, brain worms, I think prions are the ones that give me the most hebbie for my jebbies. Probably no way to cure them (like inoculation). Though maybe someday we can come up with a way to treat them. I do wonder if there would be a way we could do some genetic tweaks that would avoid the protein involved and have the cellular mechanisms use a different protein for the same functions. Don't use the protein, then the prion won't do anything. Of course you'd then need to create a bunch of the genetically engineered deer, elk, etc. and release them in the wild and wait for them to outcompete the CWD susceptible cervids.

 

[BigCountry14]

And on top of that, you have to keep the population down for awhile. The prions are persistent in the environment for a long time. Now, dispersed so it isn't all that likely any given deer would contact extant prions. But my limited understanding is you'd really want to depress population levels but a large amount for several seasons to have a good likelihood of significantly reducing it.

Of all the various hebbie jebbies out there like ebola, marburg, cancer, necrotizing fasciitis, MRSA, brain worms, I think prions are the ones that give me the most hebbie for my jebbies. Probably no way to cure them (like inoculation). Though maybe someday we can come up with a way to treat them. I do wonder if there would be a way we could do some genetic tweaks that would avoid the protein involved and have the cellular mechanisms use a different protein for the same functions. Don't use the protein, then the prion won't do anything. Of course you'd then need to create a bunch of the genetically engineered deer, elk, etc. and release them in the wild and wait for them to outcompete the CWD susceptible cervids.

Fire seems to be the only way to kill the prions, but it there has been some concern recently that it can survive some.

 

[lazarus]

My sister sent this from Sussex County DE this afternoon.

I've seen none so far. It is usually about now I start to see them in my woods and yard. Though they might still be back in the woods deeper more and not following their moms as much. Usually isn't till late June I start seeing the moms and their fawns joining the herds.

I did see a ton of very nice bull elk in RMNP last week. Makes me really, really want to get an elk tag.