HB1261 - Weapon Crimes - Assault Long Guns and Copycat Weapons

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  • Mark75H

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    Maybe we need to have a super rally after this is passed to make the supreme court feel that they need to rule.
     

    fabsroman

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    Agreed. It definitely needs to be ruled on so we can either put the issue to rest, or start the revolution.

    This right here. I am sick and tired of all the BS that we have to deal with every year in this state because SCOTUS refuses to rule one way or another. Biggest mistake in Heller was not being precise, but the Courts love that BS. They hate to rule on anything that is not directly before them. They love to have wiggle room later on to change their minds. I think Heller is pretty firm in that the 2nd Amendment protects the use of commonly used weapons for self defense. Pretty sure it protects handguns. Granted, I am sure there is plenty of wiggle room as to exactly what handguns are protected. There is wiggle room in what exactly is protected long gun wise. Let SCOTUS rule on the 2nd Amendment in its entirety as to exactly what it does and does not protect, and then we go from there. Way too much time and money being wasted by both sides to argue about this.

    Pretty sure SCOTUS would love to rule on a .22lr handgun. Next case, .28 ACP. Next case, .380. Next case, 9mm. Of course, we all know that the .40 S&W will be protected, along with the .357 Sig, so need for a separate case there.

    Then, we can have a case each for single shot capacity, 2 rounds, 3 rounds, 4 rounds, 5 rounds, 6 rounds, etc. until we get to the point where something is unconstitutional. Personally, I believe any capacity limitation is unconstitutional. China or Russia will invade the US before SCOTUS decides it is time to lay the 2nd Amendment issue to rest, in its entirety.

    Let's not forget that the 2nd Amendment, while covering self defense, also covers defense from a tyranical government. I should be allowed to own the exact same weapons as the police department and the military.

    Rant over.
     

    fabsroman

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    Which SCOTUS case are you thinking of?

    The one that will be brought if this pile of BS is passed.

    Ultimately, we should get something like this to pass in a very gun friendly state with a very gun friendly US Circuit Court that will rule that such a ban is unconstitutional. Then, that will pretty much force SCOTUS to take up the case. Maybe a couple of splits by gun friendly US Circuit Courts ruling that this sort of thing is unconstitutional. Problem is getting something like this to pass in a gun friendly circuit. Until then, SCOTUS is probably alright with allowing states in certain parts of the country to legislate away.
     

    Assists21

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    Jan 17, 2013
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    As much as you may disagree with my methods, I truly believe my backdoor tactic last Wednesday opened at least one set of eyes in the Senate Commission. Sen. Smith clearly got my message, and he is the committee chair.

    The PP and MSI didn't agree with my method, but I went to Analpolis (sic) and spoke my voice. I slept well that night knowing I did what was right.



    What exactly was your tactic? I must have missed it!


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    lazarus

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    Jun 23, 2015
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    This right here. I am sick and tired of all the BS that we have to deal with every year in this state because SCOTUS refuses to rule one way or another. Biggest mistake in Heller was not being precise, but the Courts love that BS. They hate to rule on anything that is not directly before them. They love to have wiggle room later on to change their minds. I think Heller is pretty firm in that the 2nd Amendment protects the use of commonly used weapons for self defense. Pretty sure it protects handguns. Granted, I am sure there is plenty of wiggle room as to exactly what handguns are protected. There is wiggle room in what exactly is protected long gun wise. Let SCOTUS rule on the 2nd Amendment in its entirety as to exactly what it does and does not protect, and then we go from there. Way too much time and money being wasted by both sides to argue about this.

    Pretty sure SCOTUS would love to rule on a .22lr handgun. Next case, .28 ACP. Next case, .380. Next case, 9mm. Of course, we all know that the .40 S&W will be protected, along with the .357 Sig, so need for a separate case there.

    Then, we can have a case each for single shot capacity, 2 rounds, 3 rounds, 4 rounds, 5 rounds, 6 rounds, etc. until we get to the point where something is unconstitutional. Personally, I believe any capacity limitation is unconstitutional. China or Russia will invade the US before SCOTUS decides it is time to lay the 2nd Amendment issue to rest, in its entirety.

    Let's not forget that the 2nd Amendment, while covering self defense, also covers defense from a tyranical government. I should be allowed to own the exact same weapons as the police department and the military.

    Rant over.

    I am willing to sacrifice 40S&W on the alter of political expediency. Let’s ban that one and allow the rest.
     

    sajidakh

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    Dec 28, 2010
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