Suggestions on a 9mm

[ShoreShooter]

I own a Sig P229 with the E2 grip, and also a HK P30.

Both are DA/SA but neither has a safety.

I prefer the Sig. Herself prefers the HK.

The HK has interchangeable backstraps PLUS interchangeable side panels. Purely on ergo grounds this may be the direction you need to go toward, given your desire to have something both you and your kids can enjoy. But be advised that changing out the grip straps and panels is more difficult / time consuming than it is on something like an M&P. You won't be just changing it out in a quick minute, taking turns between you and the kids shooting.

I have not shot the CZ with the safety, so can't comment.

 

[ShoreShooter]

I am looking at the CZ website. From what I am seeing, you can get EITHER a decocker, or a manual safety, but not both.

Am I missing an option? Is there a model with both?

The Walther PPK/S .380 has both. It can be done.

 

[traveller]

I am looking at the CZ website. From what I am seeing, you can get EITHER a decocker, or a manual safety, but not both.

Am I missing an option? Is there a model with both?

Could it be a combined safety/decocker ?

 

[elbert]

I am looking at the CZ website. From what I am seeing, you can get EITHER a decocker, or a manual safety, but not both.

Am I missing an option? Is there a model with both?

I don't think CZ has one with both at the same time.
With the polymer models (P07, P09), you can switch between either decocker or safety, but you can't have both at the same time.

With the 75 models, you have to buy the specific decocker or safety version. The only way to switch is to trade in the gun

 

[ma_deuce]

I took mine apart (the trigger was not bad, just heavy), but there was a BUNCH of junk in the trigger area. Gritty dirty. Just a good cleaning helped a LOT.

But pull is still heavy. Trying to decide whether to send it out, or mess with it myself.

I was going to tap out the trigger pin, remove the magazine disconnect, and clean it out. But I couldn't get the trigger pin out, and didn't want to mess it up beating on it. So I took it to John Walker up at Duffy's to get the full treatment. I did find, just as you and Lou and I were talking about, that just squeezing the trigger a couple hundred times worked out a lot of the grit. I suspect there was a lot of random junk in mine, too. Some other purchasers over on the Hi Power forum call it "Gaza Sand".

 

[Pinecone]

How much do they charge to do the trigger? I might have to drop mine off also.

 

[POP57]

Bersa thunder 9UC

Sorry for bringing up an old post, but curious if have experience with these? You seem to have suggested them in several threads.

 

[TheGunnyRet]

CZ P09 Full size De-cocker option and 19rd Mags...

 

[Blaster229]

Seems like a sig 229 is in order.

SIG P229
CZ75
M&P9
Bersa THunder 9
Ruger SR9
Beretta 92FS

CZ 75 or Sig 229

I have a 229 and love it, but it does have a fat chunky grip, and would be difficult to wrap smaller hands around it. My wife hates it.

Sig P229 or P226, specifically with the new E2 grips. They are thinner, and grippier than the stock grips, yet still comfy - def not as aggro as the FN's.

Yes, I agree, but only if it is newer version with the E2 grip.

SIG P229 w/ the E2 grips so your daughter can shoot it. .

My vote is for the sig P229... a little thick but then I like thick.

SIG P226. Period.

Sig226.
The TacOps model comes standard with 20 round mags (you'll obviously have to receive those out of state). They are tack drivers, smooth shooting, and with the SRT are great for competition. The only way the TacOps may not meet your specifications is that it has a grip that is designed for fairly large hands.

Did Sig just come out with a manual safety on the P series now?

 

[GunnerGunz]

Oldies but Goodies

S&W 3rd Gen....5906 or a 6906

Ruger P89

Tough, Reliable and can be had for a nice price.

I have a S&W 5906 and it has never failed or needed any new parts. Takes any ammo and is very accurate. Shoot it at 25 yards and get 3" to 4" groups. awesome pistol.

 

[POP57]

The Sig P225 A1 appears to be a single stack version of the 229.

 

[jimbobborg]

Arise, zombie thread. You can tell who reads the dates and who doesn't on these boards.

 

[POP57]

Arise, zombie thread. You can tell who reads the dates and who doesn't on these boards.

I reincarnated the thread some days ago looking for more info on the CZ-75D. Oh well...

 

[Blaster229]

The Sig P225 A1 appears to be a single stack version of the 229.

Without a manual safety.

 

[Blaster229]

Arise, zombie thread. You can tell who reads the dates and who doesn't on these boards.

You can also tell who reads the actual post.

 

[MikeofMD]

I'm not aware of any CZ's that have both a manual safety and a decocker. The choice is pretty much one or the other, based on personal preference. All 'B' model CZ's, though, have a firing-pin block that allows you to safely drop the hammer on a loaded chamber by squeezing the trigger and gently lowering it with your thumb while releasing the trigger. Technically, I guess you could call that a 'decocker' since it accomplishes the same goal without adding another external control to accomplish it? I like both the CZ B and BD models but the B's tend to have a slightly better trigger pull.

I'd recommend either a CZ 75 B or (if you can find one) a 75B Compact. They are the most inherently accurate 9mm pistols I've ever owned and don't need a lot of modifications to shoot well. They're also one of the easiest pistols out there to field strip and maintain.

The 85b was my choice, being ambidextrous. Like a previous poster said, with the safety, it can also be decocked by letting down the hammer carefully while pulling the trigger. That is something that I would never do (other than at the range), but it's an option.
I swapped out the oem grip for the VZ grip. Makes a perfect grip for me. CZ grip was close, VZ made it better.

Speaking of the FNX, I have the FNS-9 that has the similar aggressive grip. Good size grip for my hands. I use that for home defense. I like the safety that is quick to flip and fire.

 

[POP57]

Without a manual safety.

Unless it's a requirement in Maryland, and perhaps it is, I'm not a fan of manual saftey. If it has a decocker, I don't see the need as the first trigger pull will be double action. I was just making an observation about the firearm.

 

[Blaster229]

Unless it's a requirement in Maryland, and perhaps it is, I'm not a fan of manual saftey. If it has a decocker, I don't see the need as the first trigger pull will be double action. I was just making an observation about the firearm.

Of course. Everyone has their own opinion, especially when responding to an op question, just to express an opinion which doesn't answer the op.

 

[POP57]

Of course. Everyone has their own opinion, especially when responding to an op question, just to express an opinion which doesn't answer the op.

I actually wasn't responding to the OP as I knew it was an old post from the gitgo. Just making a statement.

 

[Blaster229]

I actually wasn't responding to the OP as I knew it was an old post from the gitgo. Just making a statement.

My point exactly.