2015 Banned Member Amnesty Program

[outrider58]

If I ever... decide... to make... a fake account... just look for... the overuse.... of ellipses :-)

Duly...noted...

 

[protegeV]

When you log in there are numbers that get associated with your account. Your IP address and your MAC (media access controller) number. When you get banned your IP and your MAC number which an individual identification number for specific device. Routers NIC's and modems all have this number. In addition to your IP address pretty much all will ID you down to who you are. So once an IP address gets a ban even if you go to a friend's house to sign up for an account you will still never be able to sign on to any devices that may be associated to your screen name.so new cell phone cable modem new router and a new computer is what it would take to get past that first layer of defense. 2nd people write in a style that is unique to them. Use of words phrases and simple grammar mistakes are hard to miss. It is not hard to root out alternative accounts once you know what to look for. Like who would not suspect a person with the Screen name of Kemosobi not suppect that it would not be the lone ranger. Humans are creatures of habit and sooner or later people slip up and give themselves away.

LR seems a little too persistent. He may be visiting the library soon...

 

[swinokur]

If he does, a DNS query of the IP will show it as a county govt address. how would he visit regularly?

it might work once. Norton and the mods are not stupid.

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Good God you folks are entertaining........

vBulletin has more holes in it than a wedge of cheap Swiss cheese.....I have ample alternate id's to lurk for a very long time........

I make some obvious just to toy with Norton......sad part is that some folks are being banned that are not me.....like user Kemosabi.....can't take credit for that one.....

MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!!!!!

Hi Ho Silver away..................................

Ego...a vice that you just cannot ever be rid of.

 

[protegeV]

Good God you folks are entertaining........

vBulletin has more holes in it than a wedge of cheap Swiss cheese.....I have ample alternate id's to lurk for a very long time........

I make some obvious just to toy with Norton......sad part is that some folks are being banned that are not me.....like user Kemosabi.....can't take credit for that one.....

MERRY CHRISTMAS to all!!!!!

Hi Ho Silver away..................................

 

[PJDiesel]

Eeeeewwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

Not sure if I belive what I'm reading!

 

[webb297]

Anybody have an issue with the banning of LR now?

Related note, Norton deserves a medal.

 

[protegeV]

Eeeeewwwwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!

Not sure if I belive what I'm reading!

 

[SRD]

 

[smdub]

When you log in there are numbers that get associated with your account. Your IP address and your MAC (media access controller) number. When you get banned your IP and your MAC number which an individual identification number for specific device.

I've modified an IP stack for a work project and IIRC the MAC doesn't travel along w/ the IP. MAC is part of the physical (ethernet) layer. IP protocol sits on top of that and does NOT encapsulate the MAC (never remember which layer is which in the OSI model.) Each node that an ethernet packet hops through gets its MAC replaced w/ that device. I don't think an end user (the website) can ever determine the originators MAC addr. The MAC they will see is the last one from their own ISP's router the server is connected to.

 

[protegeV]

well ya gotta hand it to him, he knows his LR trivia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Moore

 

[Mr. Ed]

well ya gotta hand it to him, he knows his LR trivia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clayton_Moore

Sumbitch! I never knew that.

 

[SRD]

Okay I'll admit it,I'm laughing.

 

[webb297]

So back to the original point of this thread, was this years effort of self-flagellation as successful as last years?

 

[psycosteve]

I've modified an IP stack for a work project and IIRC the MAC doesn't travel along w/ the IP. MAC is part of the physical (ethernet) layer. IP protocol sits on top of that and does NOT encapsulate the MAC (never remember which layer is which in the OSI model.) Each node that an ethernet packet hops through gets its MAC replaced w/ that device. I don't think an end user (the website) can ever determine the originators MAC addr. The MAC they will see is the last one from their own ISP's router the server is connected to.

I was intentionally vague about some details of the whole packet. This has something to do with the header information of FTP where it shows where the information is to be forwarded to. Looking at the packets is how most alt accounts will be found.

 

[swinokur]

I've modified an IP stack for a work project and IIRC the MAC doesn't travel along w/ the IP. MAC is part of the physical (ethernet) layer. IP protocol sits on top of that and does NOT encapsulate the MAC (never remember which layer is which in the OSI model.) Each node that an ethernet packet hops through gets its MAC replaced w/ that device. I don't think an end user (the website) can ever determine the originators MAC addr. The MAC they will see is the last one from their own ISP's router the server is connected to.

^^^^

this.

MAC addresses are stipped off at the gateway router of the physical network and put back at the destination network

 

[Brooklyn]

I've modified an IP stack for a work project and IIRC the MAC doesn't travel along w/ the IP. MAC is part of the physical (ethernet) layer. IP protocol sits on top of that and does NOT encapsulate the MAC (never remember which layer is which in the OSI model.) Each node that an ethernet packet hops through gets its MAC replaced w/ that device. I don't think an end user (the website) can ever determine the originators MAC addr. The MAC they will see is the last one from their own ISP's router the server is connected to.

Yes. But the general point is true..

Its a physical layer address.. and its easy to spoof..
Any php based system is vulnerable as well.
Not my area of experience..

Only a muli factor log in would be up to the challenge...

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

Yes. But the general point is true..

Its a physical layer address.. and its easy to spoof..
Any php based system is vulnerable as well.
Not my area of experience..

Only a muli factor log in would be up to the challenge...

Yeah, and when the bleep zapper gets crossed with the gooble farber, you better be sure to have the Ixway hummelfarbed against the stippled wangus.

That's how I'd handle it.

But then, my flip phone was way smarter than me. My smart phone is a complete waste of money. Technology not my friend...then or now.

Long as you guys keep the nitwits n knuckleheads at bay; thanks.

 

[protegeV]

y'all are hurtin my brain...

 

[Alea Jacta Est]

y'all are hurtin my brain...

This is exactly how I feel when reading the posts about the security issues of the web...

Thanks P5 for putting into meme what my words could not describe.