Do you plan to get your HQL?

[rj1974]

And they will continue to get away with it. Just like they had the NICS Center do some shady stuff this week.

Dosent mean I LIKE it, but Im not going to pretend fighting it will give us the results we like.

This .

Does anyone honestly believe on Oct 1st the magic list of approved training classes and requirements will appear or guidelines for the FOID card ?

They don't care , they are sitting back laughing their collective asses off at us .

Fox's report that Chad posted made that damned clear . With all the supposed OT and extra help they have and are now doing 5-6,000 LESS yes LESS applications then they were at the first of the year . THEY DON'T CARE .

There is no excuse for that other then they are being told to slow down and make this mess worse . A 100+ day wait now , I would bet good money that by Oct 1st we will be looking at a year .

Would I like to flood the system ,hell yes more then it already is . Will it doing any good , doubtful .

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Question for you "grey beards"... When they instituted the current training requirement, which I have to show when I BUY a regulated firearm, were they ready with the onoine training program on the effective date for that?

 

[Kagetsu]

OMG another permit? Probably will add it to my list. Though I did balk at FFL because it was seriously complicated to maintain in PRMD

CDL/HazMat
FAA/CFI/II
FCC/General
Hunter Safety Course
Firearms Safety Training Course
Utah CCW

FBI Fingerprint:

Utah CCW
TaiKwonDo/ organization with children
School Bus Driver/ working with children
Hazmat authorized transporter/ really can't figure that one.
Security system specialist/ extra able to be a burglar (only reason I can figure)

I live for little cards that say "I Can"

 

[clandestine]

Question for you "grey beards"... When they instituted the current training requirement, which I have to show when I BUY a regulated firearm, were they ready with the onoine training program on the effective date for that?

Yes, it was in place when it was required. The problem wasn't the training requirement back in the day. It was the Integrated Lock Law. There were just but a few guns with Factory Integrated Locks so dealers were not able to sell product.

It was the MLFDA that convinced the MSP to allow Omega Type locks to be counted as "Integrated"

 

[L0gic]

...If the State of MD imposed a new regulation on a hair salon and provided no way for them to be in compliance by the date it took effect, Whatdya think would happen?

So your saying your hair isn't that color naturally

Count me in the list of getting a HQL just to give them more paperwork to do. By 10/1 I should have already received all the handguns I bought at the end of March so while I "may" not need to do it, I "shall" just because. In the future I might see a new handgun I like and I'll already have the paperwork to get it. But those who refuse to get a HQL just bolster the Anti-stats that will be pitched to show a sudden drop in gun purchases must mean that these new requirements put an end to all straw-purchases. Kind of like how RIAA directly equates lost sales to piracy and only piracy.

Another thing I saw mention is the "Assault weapon copy" clause. I forget the exact wording, but it was something like if its got more than 10 round capacity and a threaded barrel then its banned. Well I should have my FNX-45 tactical before October, but I'm sure there are other handguns that meet this clause, so since these are "banned" handguns, would or would one not have to go through the HQL process to receive these after 10/1?


FYI: I've only been fingerprinted twice in my entire life. Once when I was born and again when I started working for the Feds. Wonder if I can get HR to do a live-scan for me...

 

[Caeb75]

Question for you "grey beards"... When they instituted the current training requirement, which I have to show when I BUY a regulated firearm, were they ready with the onoine training program on the effective date for that?

As much as I hate to admit it, Sandy Abrams was on point with this one, and it was his video that most people watched to get their training cert back in the day. A group of friends and I went up to Valley the day it took effect and watched his video.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

Yes, it was in place when it was required. The problem wasn't the training requirement back in the day. It was the Integrated Lock Law. There were just but a few guns with Factory Integrated Locks so dealers were not able to sell product.

It was the MLFDA that convinced the MSP to allow Omega Type locks to be counted as "Integrated"

Precedence. Thanks.

 

[Threeband]

... When they instituted the current training requirement, which I have to show when I BUY a regulated firearm, were they ready with the onoine training program on the effective date for that?

At first it was just a video that you watched at the gun store. That's how I did it just a couple months after it started.

The point was, "they" initially wanted some complex training scheme, but "our" argument was that the training had to be readily available even to poor working people who couldn't afford to take off work and pay $100 for training. It had to be FREE and it had to be ACCESSIBLE.

So what happened?

 

[Mr H]

Question for you "grey beards"... When they instituted the current training requirement, which I have to show when I BUY a regulated firearm, were they ready with the onoine training program on the effective date for that?

Honestly, I wasn't even aware of the online until probably a year after it went live, and am still running off my old video card. I get the feeling it was more a procedural change than a statutory one, but am interested in hearing the answer.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

So your saying your hair isn't that color naturally

I will spare you the eye bleach.

OTOH, I bring my high school pic in for matching.

 

[joppaj]

Thought "we" are exempt. ???

Nope, we're exempt from the training component.

I will be getting one. My Dad has handguns that I will one day inherit. I'm not letting them get turned in to the state because I don't have a permission slip.

 

[clandestine]

Yup all of the people who refused to get a DC Letter and said it was BS are hating life now. I knew if there were ever any mad rushes for guns that people WITHOUT DC Letters would suffer.

Ill get the Handgun Purchase Permit for the same reasons. My Armory is complete but if something presents itself I want to have the option to jump on it.

 

[John from MD]

I bought my last regulated firearm in Maryland unless the law changes. I will buy C&R pistols instead of complying with that outrageous law.

John

 

[Straightshooter]

I look for October to be a very dry month for FFLs in the handgun area. It's all well and good to write to MSP in September requesting a HQL, as I also will, but remember, the law doesn't take affect until Oct 1. The MSP isn't required to take any action until then and they are not authorized to impose fees until then.

 

[ShallNotInfringe]

I look for October to be a very dry month for FFLs in the handgun area. It's all well and good to write to MSP in September requesting a HQL, as I also will, but remember, the law doesn't take affect until Oct 1. The MSP isn't required to take any action until then and they are not authorized to impose fees until then.

Well then how do we present the HQL to make a purchase on Oct 1 per the law? Or are they effectively preventing commerce on handguns until they get it together? The law is bad enough!

Edit to flame: this would never be done for any other kind of purchase in any state. And we are talking about a RIGHT!!!

 

[Mr H]

I look for October to be a very dry month for FFLs in the handgun area. It's all well and good to write to MSP in September requesting a HQL, as I also will, but remember, the law doesn't take affect until Oct 1. The MSP isn't required to take any action until then and they are not authorized to impose fees until then.

This.

And as I've said elsewhere, they would rather muddle and confuse as long as possible.

They're already doing it.

 

[swinokur]

I'm gonna see where the lawsuit goes.

 

[milldog]

At some point I'll want to get that PX4, SIG, etc, and they ain't in the cards financially right now w/the AR and AK purchases I've done, so yeah, I will be getting the HQL. Still can't stand the idea of getting fingerprinted for a civil right (my prints are on file for work but that's a choice, not a right) so I'll probably do something lame to just vent like getting a t-shirt made that says "Not a criminal, guilty of being an American" and wearing it when I get printed...will have to take a pic with the ink on my fingers so I can look like one of those freedom-loving foreigners we're always helping with elections.

 

[F-Stop]

I've been torn by this decision. I am buying what I want now expecting not to buy for 6 months to a year due to process and policy issues working out. I plan to buy again and do the HQL. We need to support the firearm culture and I'm not going to let the red tape stop me.

 

[Dave T]

Did I read correctly... you also need the HQL to RENT a handgun? So if I go to On Target during lunch with some co-workers, we all have to have the HQL to rent their pistols?