No more Beretta's in my shop! I agree, they cant up and move in 30days but they could have said they have a plan to move operations over a given period of time. I am sure it would have made alot of us at least feel better.
Beretta to remain in MD, but reevaluating plans for expansion within the state
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guys this is the important thing to remember
Martin O'Malley, Mike Busch, Mike Miller, Brian Frosh, Kathleen Dumais, And Joseph Vallerio sold out. Instead of passing "tough common sense gun control laws that will keep people safe", they sold out and exempted Beretta brand high capacity magazines and assault rifles, just to keep lucrative government contract tax money flowing into their pockets. These beretta brand high capacity magazines and bullet spewing assault rifles will still be on the streets of Maryland, and on the streets across this great nation.
By making beretta brand assault rifles one of the most legal assault rifles in MD, and repealing the 7 day waiting period for assault rifles in MD, Governor Martin O'Malley and his supporters have ensured that Beretta brand assault rifles will be cheap and easly to obtain, and will be the assault rifle of choice in the once great state of maryland. As a more modernized rifle than the AR15 or AK47, we are assured that blood will run in the streets. Beretta even threatened to move their death dealing business of out maryland, which would have kept the blood off the hands of our progressive state, but these greedy md politicians colluded and lobbied them to stay, all to keep the state's coffers full. So who is the greedy lobby making money off death now, the NRA or the MD democrat political machine?
Martin O'Malley, Mike Busch, Mike Miller, Brian Frosh, Kathleen Dumais, And Joseph Vallerio sold out. Instead of passing "tough common sense gun control laws that will keep people safe", they sold out and exempted Beretta brand high capacity magazines and assault rifles, just to keep lucrative government contract tax money flowing into their pockets. These beretta brand high capacity magazines and bullet spewing assault rifles will still be on the streets of Maryland, and on the streets across this great nation.
By making beretta brand assault rifles one of the most legal assault rifles in MD, and repealing the 7 day waiting period for assault rifles in MD, Governor Martin O'Malley and his supporters have ensured that Beretta brand assault rifles will be cheap and easly to obtain, and will be the assault rifle of choice in the once great state of maryland. As a more modernized rifle than the AR15 or AK47, we are assured that blood will run in the streets. Beretta even threatened to move their death dealing business of out maryland, which would have kept the blood off the hands of our progressive state, but these greedy md politicians colluded and lobbied them to stay, all to keep the state's coffers full. So who is the greedy lobby making money off death now, the NRA or the MD democrat political machine?
- Dec 27, 2012
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What difference would it make now if they moved?
The next time a gun bill comes up we'll say hey look what happened last time, we lost 300 jobs in Maryland. It wouldn't change anything. The legislators don't care. Beretta needs to do what Beretta needs to do to keep their company viable.
The next time a gun bill comes up we'll say hey look what happened last time, we lost 300 jobs in Maryland. It wouldn't change anything. The legislators don't care. Beretta needs to do what Beretta needs to do to keep their company viable.
What makes all of you such experts in manufacturing and equipment moving ????? This was a extreamly hard desicision for Beretta! It would have costed the company 10's of millions of dollars !! There is no ready to go facility just over the bridge !!! Its a storage warehouse !! Unlike magPul that had injection molding equipment Which I might add are very easy to move and set up. Beretta requires over a 200000 Amp power service! There is many EPA Issues dealing with the Chrome line, Anodizing, Brunitron,Blueing,The DMP, Heat treating with caustic soda !Then there is the lead issues with the shooting tubes and EPA permits required before moving and redoing the building! Then they have 1200 HP of air compressors. Hundreds of mile of wires and air lines to power there equipment. Then there is moving and set up of there machines. The Matsui siki's took over a year to set up and thats just 6 machining centers! thay have several hundred ! then down time and not being able to deliver on contracts.There is Mag partical and metrololigy that needs a clean rooms that need a consistant air quality and temp.Beretta has its own tool grinding group that needs special air ventilation system. so does there polishing area. And what about the people that have been there 15-20 years? The avarage employee has been there 18 years. So what makes this a no brainer to just jump over the bridge??? I mentioned just a small bit of what needs to be done.You can love them or hate them . But if you have ever been there and seen both the tolarance , quality and Innovation You could better understand and appriciate what it takes to make a gun!
Cpl. Cornbeef
Active Member
If they didn't plan on moving or making Md hurt, they shouldn't have threatened to do it. F them! I'll never buy any of their products and I'm selling the ones I have. They don't deserve to be in my home!
aquaman
Ultimate Member
How much $$ has Beretta donated to MSI?
Agreed, F Beretta they are now on my DO NOT BUY list and I will tell anyone who asks my opinion to stay away as well. In fact from now on I will refer to them as the O’Malley Arms Company.
RobSky
Ultimate Member
I second that!
I think they took us for a ride, knowing fully well that they would acquiesce. Maybe we should turn the tables on them and force their hand. Since a lot of us are now DINO's, maybe we should contact our reps and have them kicked out of the state because of what they produce.
what they should do is slowly start setting up a new facility while slowly scaling back the existing one till it is doing nothing but fulfilling its contractual obligations till that contract is over and then leave completely.
dapefley
Ultimate Member
Pushrod
Master Blaster
They said one thing and did another. They needed to put their money where their mouth was and get out of Maryland.
I understand it takes time and that there are contracts to fill. They could have done the move slowly over time to keep the contract work flowing, but they have chosen to stay over what they had testified they would do.
It's a shame, I really wanted an M9.
I understand it takes time and that there are contracts to fill. They could have done the move slowly over time to keep the contract work flowing, but they have chosen to stay over what they had testified they would do.
It's a shame, I really wanted an M9.
smores
Creepy-Ass Cracker
How many of you guys have moved out of MD yet, or put your houses on the market? If it's so easy to leave, you should have done so by now (as I have...). If your excuse is "MD is my home state and I'll stay and fight", "well the kids are still in school", or "I can't sell my house without taking a SIGNIFICANT loss", you should be careful about casting stones.
I don't have time to make a proper response at the moment, but a few people in this thread have made good points on why they are staying for now... I will have to elaborate later... I've got a lot to say and I hope at least some of you will consider it.
Si vis pacem para bellum
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I don't have time to make a proper response at the moment, but a few people in this thread have made good points on why they are staying for now... I will have to elaborate later... I've got a lot to say and I hope at least some of you will consider it.
Si vis pacem para bellum
follow me @DiscipleofJMB - GO PENS!
Gdud50
Member
- Apr 8, 2013
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_&_Wesson#Agreement_of_2000
Not exactly the same scenario, but look what can happen if you piss off the gun community.
Remember this is just not about Beretta not moving. They cut a deal with the gun banners to protect their own products.
Remember when S&W cut a deal with Clinton. When that happened I sold two 686 revolvers that I owned. They were good guns, but I HAD to sell them.
Remember when S&W cut a deal with Clinton. When that happened I sold two 686 revolvers that I owned. They were good guns, but I HAD to sell them.
Agreed in whole.
