Well now AR15 lower illegal

[BLACKTALON]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/03/30/plumcrazy-polymer-lowers-illegal-letter-batfe/
they are taking us piece by piece

 

[clandestine]

I can remove a serial # off any old eagle arms at lower with a screwdriver too. With a dremel, or cut off tool, I could remove the SN off any AR lower in 30 seconds.

Interesting...

 

[Doctor_M]

Yes... and isn't already a felony to remove a serial number from a firearm?

 

[Inigoes]

isn't already a felony to remove a serial number from a firearm?

Yes, but we need another law because that law can be ignored

 

[BLACKTALON]

I can remove a serial # off any old eagle arms at lower with a screwdriver too. With a dremel, or cut off tool, I could remove the SN off any AR lower in 30 seconds.

Interesting...

yes but how many people bought these in MD or other places as one of there only AR's and now have a illiegal firearm. I am just saying ATF is going crazy

 

[tc617]

I can remove a serial # off any old eagle arms at lower with a screwdriver too. With a dremel, or cut off tool, I could remove the SN off any AR lower in 30 seconds.

Interesting...

Exactly, and it would not affect the operation of an AR-15 at all.

 

[HarCo2ANewb]

Exactly, and it would not affect the operation of an AR-15 at all.

Yes but CSI told me they can recover the sn with acid etching and you can't do that if the plate with the sn is gone!!!!!!

I think the ATF watches too much TV.

 

[Streetgang]

Yes, but we need another law because that law can be ignored

For that reason we should ban cars because we can break laws by speeding.
BATF..another four letter word...sort of.

 

[webb297]

The comments of that article are quite interesting...... it seems that not everybody agrees with TheFirearmBlog

 

[Inigoes]

For that reason we should ban cars because we can break laws by speeding.

I am all for that! the Amish had it right!

 

[armed ferret]

it looks to me like the ease with which very basic items could be used to remove it is what the issue is, not the lowers themselves. if plum crazy can find another way to affix it so that it's not AS EASY to remove, they'll likely become legal again.

i'd be willing to bet that ATF will even allow owners an amnesty period to exchange them for an "updated" version that passes muster.

i don't agree with it in the first place, just trying to translate a bit for those going off the deep end is all.

 

[Doctor_M]

If they are out of business, sounds like those how bought the lowers are out of luck.

 

[ST19AG_WGreymon]

Oh man....I own a PC lower....

 

[Americus]

Why don't you just get the serial engraved somewhere else on the PC lower? Problem solved.

 

[SWO Daddy]

Why don't you just get the serial engraved somewhere else on the PC lower? Problem solved.

Because it's a plastic lower.

 

[kgain673]

Yes but CSI told me they can recover the sn with acid etching and you can't do that if the plate with the sn is gone!!!!!!

I think the ATF watches too much TV.

Its true. You actually can retrieve a completely destroyed serial # if its been removed from metal. It can be retrieved even if its been removed by a dremel, deeply scratched ect. Don't ask me how, don't ask me for links to a web site, but I know for a fact a crime lab can retrieve that number. Now if its been removed with a CNC machine then it could be gone forever.

 

[wilcam47]

Yes... and isn't already a felony to remove a serial number from a firearm?

Because criminals follow laws

Why don't you just get the serial engraved somewhere else on the PC lower? Problem solved.

laser cut the serial number in the lower...

If someone really wants to take out the serial number they can...plastic or aluminum...

 

[eruby]

Its true. You actually can retrieve a completely destroyed serial # if its been removed from metal. It can be retrieved even if its been removed by a dremel, deeply scratched ect. Don't ask me how, don't ask me for links to a web site, but I know for a fact a crime lab can retrieve that number. Now if its been removed with a CNC machine then it could be gone forever.

But a CNC (computer numerical control) machine is really just a high-tech, expensive fancy shmancy Dremel tool.

 

[Inigoes]

Its true. You actually can retrieve a completely destroyed serial # if its been removed from metal. It can be retrieved even if its been removed by a dremel, deeply scratched ect. Don't ask me how, don't ask me for links to a web site, but I know for a fact a crime lab can retrieve that number. Now if its been removed with a CNC machine then it could be gone forever.

A Dremel or grinder can cut a serial number out quite easily. No expensive machines needed.

 

[BradMacc82]

Can't retrieve anything if it's been cut clean out of the lower...